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I'm not going to watch that scumbag Shives, but I found Neelix extremely annoying except in the Neelix-centered stories.
In most episodes, the character is a one-dimentional bit part used as comic relief or as a foil for another person.
However, Neelix episodes allow a much deeper view of the character and for the actor to show greater range.
Jetrel, Fair Trade, Rise, and Mortal Coil for example, are all solid episodes. They flesh out Neelix's drives and motivations beyond just being a cook and interstellar party planner. They also tell stories that focus outside of the experiences of a Starfleet officer.
Unfortunately, two things stopped Neelix and others like Harry Kim and Chakotay being portrayed better throughout the rest of the series.
The first is Voyager's very strict episodic format which limited character growth potential.
The second is the disproportionate focus on the Doctor and Seven of Nine in the later seasons.
The doctor in seven were probably an attempt to move Voyager off the episodic format there was character growth there. Of course Deep Space Nine did it contemporaneously and they did it really good so I don't know what Voyager was thinking
Apparently, DS9's ratings at the time weren't doing as well as hoped, and Paramount execs stepped in to demand a return to the hit TNG formula. Especially as Voyager was a flagship program for the new UPN network and they wanted an easier uptake by new viewers.
Rick Berman was fully on-board with this, and so it remained until S3 of Enterprise...
I do recall liking voyager in the moment, if you recall this was before netflix, you had to check the tv guide and if you missed a show you missed potentially key plot lines.
Episodic format i think was very much a good decision back then
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I'm not going to watch that scumbag Shives, but I found Neelix extremely annoying except in the Neelix-centered stories.
In most episodes, the character is a one-dimentional bit part used as comic relief or as a foil for another person.
However, Neelix episodes allow a much deeper view of the character and for the actor to show greater range.
Jetrel, Fair Trade, Rise, and Mortal Coil for example, are all solid episodes. They flesh out Neelix's drives and motivations beyond just being a cook and interstellar party planner. They also tell stories that focus outside of the experiences of a Starfleet officer.
Unfortunately, two things stopped Neelix and others like Harry Kim and Chakotay being portrayed better throughout the rest of the series.
The first is Voyager's very strict episodic format which limited character growth potential.
The second is the disproportionate focus on the Doctor and Seven of Nine in the later seasons.
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What trekkie channels do you recommend?
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I don't.
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The doctor in seven were probably an attempt to move Voyager off the episodic format there was character growth there. Of course Deep Space Nine did it contemporaneously and they did it really good so I don't know what Voyager was thinking
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Apparently, DS9's ratings at the time weren't doing as well as hoped, and Paramount execs stepped in to demand a return to the hit TNG formula. Especially as Voyager was a flagship program for the new UPN network and they wanted an easier uptake by new viewers.
Rick Berman was fully on-board with this, and so it remained until S3 of Enterprise...
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I wrote about enterprise and deleted it...
I do recall liking voyager in the moment, if you recall this was before netflix, you had to check the tv guide and if you missed a show you missed potentially key plot lines.
Episodic format i think was very much a good decision back then
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