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The "gatekeeping" sub is a goldmine reeing against STEMcels
I always saw this as making fun of the ridiculous one-upping and gatekeeping among the sciences.
Yeah. But I think claiming that math is the 'most pure' and above gatekeeping is probably just an even more obnoxious form of gatekeeping.
What I'm getting from this comic is that sociologists are the only ones among them with any maturity at all. They just ignore the insults and walk away, apparently.
The sociologists are just watching and writing a paper about insecurity and competitiveness among the branches of science
In my experience, that is generally the case.
First Year Engineering Student: UR NOT A REEL SCIENCETISM! I'M TAKING PHYSICS I SO I AM LE REEL SCIENTIFICS!
Sociology Grad: K. goes back to working on their research
And that engineering major drops out following year
Or just maintains a bare C- average, but still acts like he's the god of all things STEM.
In my experience, the more "STEM > ALL" an engineering student is, the lower their GPA.
THE GATEKEEPING IS COMING FROM INSIDE THE HOUSE 
I'm starting Physics soon, and the STEM circlejerk makes me wish I had taken Philosophy.
I DON'T WANT TO BE BETTER THAN OTHER PEOPLE IT'S STRESSFUL ENOUGH BEING OK
https://old.reddit.com/r/gatekeeping/comments/9lasxo/only_math_and_physics_are_hard/
History? Theater? Education? That motherlover doesn't know the challenges of any of those fricking courses.
History requires a degree of understanding repeating patterns of similar events, understanding situational context of how events unfolded, comprehension of a multitude of cultural contexts to understand WHY it happened and so much more.
Theater requires a great deal of learning how to act genuine, how to get into a character, of placing emphasis on empathizing and identifying with a role, especially if it's challenging. And that's just on the acting side of it.
Education is one of the most fricking useful, valuable, undermined, undervalued and underpaid job in the fricking world. Without educators, YOU WOULDN'T EVEN FRICKING HAVE PHYSICS OR MATH TEACHERS IN THE FRICKING FIRST PLACE.
new snappy quote?
Imagine having your head so far up your butt that you think theater,english and history, are pointless majors.
Does he think people are fricking morons on a math sub?
I learned what the greatest common denominator divisor was in elementary school ffs
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That's basically what my maths teachers did, and it's the main reason why I hate maths now. They were like "Everyone should practically be born with this knowledge, otherwise you're dumb and you won't succeed at anything". Really made me angry.
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Every education major I knew in university agreed that it was an r-slured major that taught them nothing of value but was require to become a teacher so they went through it.
All those majors who became teachers universally look at their university education major as completely useless and claim they learned everything they needed to know of use on the job.
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The fastest way to "pay teachers what they're worth" would be to nix the edu degree requirement and go back to hiring anyone with more than 1 year of college in anything.
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It would end certain people's ability to indoctrinate teachers on their idiotic ideas. There's a reason teachers constantly evoke "critical race theory is a high level concept you couldn't teach children" because that's what they're told about it. Most high level concepts in education they are only familiar enough with to point at it when they see it. This is perfect for getting people to blindly parrot whatever is in vogue in academia.
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I never understood this defense. Literally everything we teach children is intended to help them understand/accept higher-level concepts more easily as they get older.
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Yea it's just bullshit that happens to sound good to libs and therefore was repeated endlessly by copycat posters on reddit.
I was taught about Nietzsche during a philosophy unit in school, despite it being a high level concept.
It was that unit which convinced me to drop philosophy entirely, as the teacher who had majored it in was still was paying off her loans at 50
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Exactly. A small child couldn't understand the theory of phonics based reading, but they can certainly have the concepts used to educate them.
The thing is that your average teacher is not capable of forming a coherent and logical argument in their head. That's not a criticism of them, most people can't do that. So they just repeat whatever they're told about education theories.
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I'll use that as a criticism of them and also of most people. It's a shame they have the right to vote.
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That and having
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Just ban foids from all middle/high school education. That would instantly solve 99% of all teaching problems.
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Don't be silly doe
How is an enjineer with 20y experience and 0 teaching degrees gonna teach? Fr
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By shadowing a teacher for a term and then via reading from the text book
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Practice, also sitting down and listening to black women
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better than most of these garbage public school teachers
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I'd go be a teacher if I just needed some years in college
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Lot of people would, I imagine it would do a lot to end the shortage
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Nah you shouldn't be around kids you freak
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First you'd need to stomp out all the other worthless degrees, so 1 year of college actually means the person has some higher knowledge and decent intelligence.
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Education is such an important degree which is why it's been inflated from an undergrad to master's in order to teach K through 12.
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It's really a shame that schools incentivize teachers to get a masters for jobs most undergrad students (not even grads) are overqualified for.
The education to education pipeline is truly insidious.
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It's not their fault. It's a consequence of the market being flooded with suppliers (wanna-be teachers). There's so many, you needed a better way to filter them for quality, so the Masters program becomes more valuable. More then take it, and well we're not much better of because of it, but it's mainly driven by labor.
This is part of the skills v signaling debate with college degrees.
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Took some masters level education classes to get my GPA
Sat next to football players and obese 30 something teachers spending thousands to get a small bump in pay
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If it's not being taught to you by a PhD it isn't real math or physics.
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doing a maths degree made me realise I was the real r-slur
just smart enough for a pure math undergrad, but the dumbest motherlover in every class
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But now you make the big bux at a quant firm, right? Right?
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exactly like that, just think less money at a less cool job
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Being a RM in a investment firm is the funniest job imo. The chief of risk with a business undergrad and MBA degree comes in swinging his big peepee after he learnt what the difference between stochastic and probabilistic means. He thinks he can now ask serious questions about your risk modelling approaches.
You watch with pleasure as his big peepee shrinks and coils up inside his body the moment you start explaining lebesgue to price in risk.
Exact same thing when I was working in supply chain management. They don't know what an eigenvalue is but think they can grill you like a doctoral dissertation board.
!math !r-slurs methtards assemble!
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But does the MBA business undergrad make more or less money than the mathcel?
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He makes at least 25X (it's in the high 7 digits) of what I make. But humiliating such a guy 6 times a year makes up for it. And also if I am careless enough to sink the fund, I can get a similar paying job offer in a month (as long as I'm not doing something out of malice or self dealing). Whereas if I actually did end up sinking the fund, he would have to answer to the board, the trustees, the investors and then leave in shame where his annual compensation would take at least a 25% hit in his next job.
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Now that's just
Well, yeah, the highest paying the job the bigger the responsibility and accountability. He's certainly under much more stress and pressure because of it.
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I had to take two graduate level statistics classes for my masters and they really emphasized how r-slurred I am lol. I happily scraped by with Bs in those classes thankful I didn't do worse.
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For math, it has to specifically be taught be an expat from eastern europe.
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or an asian with an accent so powerful you can't understand it
the one Westcel in our maths department was as I understood the scuttlebutt everyone else's little b-word for being an inferior mathematician. this man was 6'4, late 30s and hot as frick so my point is mathcels only care about integration and NOT the racial kind
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Schools of Education have the highest acceptance and graduation rates out of any departments in colleges with the lowest ACT/SAT/IQ scores. It's like 99% acceptance and 90% graduation rates. They let any r-slur that wants in and pass them all anymore. That pretty clearly shows the curriculum isn't very rigorous these days.
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Yeah my college girlfriend was an education major and their course work was extremely easy, like high school level stuff for the most part. It was one of those deals where if you showed up to class and paid attention pretty much every kid with a C average in high school could probably graduate with little difficulty.
She was like a B to A- average student in high school and graduated with a 3.6 GPA in college without really trying at all.
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And then those grads go on to be teachers who b-word and moan about how schools pass all the students (even the meanies!
) and how they'll never make it in the real world because uni isn't like this!
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…and it was always the educels in training who offered me sexual favors for solving their math or chemistry homework back in college. Sub-101 shit.
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How can "how to teach effectively" classes be useless for learning how to teach effectively 🤔
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Because they don't teach it in those classes
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When I started teaching (college tho) I benefitted a lot from reading some scientific literature on teaching and learning. My hunch has always been that education majors are simply too stupid to take away anything useful from these classes, doubly so if they are like aspiring maths teachers who think everything that's not maths is made up bullshit.
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Especially math.
Education majors are objectively r-slurred with math. This includes teachers who later become math teachers.
I actually think a significant reason why American children generally underperform in math and other technical subjects is because the r-slurs with education degrees that become teachers for those subjects just fundamentally don't understand what they're teaching. I mean sure I had a couple good math teachers through my primary and secondary education, but they were the exception.
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I blame "common core" for killing a lot of kids motivation too. Getting all the answers right but still failing because "you used the wrong method! u no show work!!!" makes kids just stop caring, doubly so when the min grade is a 50 and 51 is a pass
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Yeah I'd say grade inflation in general does have a part to play. Some particularly driven students are self-motivated but most require external motivation, which we've been chipping away at for decades.
We should normalize completely ostracizing people from society if they can't complete basic high school tests imo. Stop passing kids to make the numbers look better. Instead, fail them so they can't get a job more involved than "cashier" until they get their shit together, or they'll just be a permanent underclass if they lack the willpower to better themselves.
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You realize that underclass will just vote for gibs
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they'll vote for whoever the media tells them to tbh
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We need to genetically engineer hyperlions so that we can send in the kids who fail the tests as soldiers in the war against the genetically engineered hyperlions.
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Can't have that until school funding is decoupled from graduation rates (or even total student population, as the tards dropping out after 9th grade means they're not part of the per-pupil funding for the next 3 years)
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It is here (all schools in the district get paid by pupil count) and they still have crazy grade inflation.
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This
I always got right
answer 
and did average in highschool but excelled in college 
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I'm not sure how common core is to be blamed specifically rather than implementation. It's a fine way of learning. The problem is that there's no flexibility allowed in the education system since teaching the "standards" is all that matters.
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