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The "gatekeeping" sub is a goldmine reeing against STEMcels
I always saw this as making fun of the ridiculous one-upping and gatekeeping among the sciences.
Yeah. But I think claiming that math is the 'most pure' and above gatekeeping is probably just an even more obnoxious form of gatekeeping.
What I'm getting from this comic is that sociologists are the only ones among them with any maturity at all. They just ignore the insults and walk away, apparently.
The sociologists are just watching and writing a paper about insecurity and competitiveness among the branches of science
In my experience, that is generally the case.
First Year Engineering Student: UR NOT A REEL SCIENCETISM! I'M TAKING PHYSICS I SO I AM LE REEL SCIENTIFICS!
Sociology Grad: K. goes back to working on their research
And that engineering major drops out following year
Or just maintains a bare C- average, but still acts like he's the god of all things STEM.
In my experience, the more "STEM > ALL" an engineering student is, the lower their GPA.
THE GATEKEEPING IS COMING FROM INSIDE THE HOUSE 
I'm starting Physics soon, and the STEM circlejerk makes me wish I had taken Philosophy.
I DON'T WANT TO BE BETTER THAN OTHER PEOPLE IT'S STRESSFUL ENOUGH BEING OK
https://old.reddit.com/r/gatekeeping/comments/9lasxo/only_math_and_physics_are_hard/
History? Theater? Education? That motherlover doesn't know the challenges of any of those fricking courses.
History requires a degree of understanding repeating patterns of similar events, understanding situational context of how events unfolded, comprehension of a multitude of cultural contexts to understand WHY it happened and so much more.
Theater requires a great deal of learning how to act genuine, how to get into a character, of placing emphasis on empathizing and identifying with a role, especially if it's challenging. And that's just on the acting side of it.
Education is one of the most fricking useful, valuable, undermined, undervalued and underpaid job in the fricking world. Without educators, YOU WOULDN'T EVEN FRICKING HAVE PHYSICS OR MATH TEACHERS IN THE FRICKING FIRST PLACE.
new snappy quote?
Imagine having your head so far up your butt that you think theater,english and history, are pointless majors.
Does he think people are fricking morons on a math sub?
I learned what the greatest common denominator divisor was in elementary school ffs
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That's basically what my maths teachers did, and it's the main reason why I hate maths now. They were like "Everyone should practically be born with this knowledge, otherwise you're dumb and you won't succeed at anything". Really made me angry.
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Being a RM in a investment firm is the funniest job imo. The chief of risk with a business undergrad and MBA degree comes in swinging his big peepee after he learnt what the difference between stochastic and probabilistic means. He thinks he can now ask serious questions about your risk modelling approaches.
You watch with pleasure as his big peepee shrinks and coils up inside his body the moment you start explaining lebesgue to price in risk.
Exact same thing when I was working in supply chain management. They don't know what an eigenvalue is but think they can grill you like a doctoral dissertation board.
!math !r-slurs methtards assemble!
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But does the MBA business undergrad make more or less money than the mathcel?
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He makes at least 25X (it's in the high 7 digits) of what I make. But humiliating such a guy 6 times a year makes up for it. And also if I am careless enough to sink the fund, I can get a similar paying job offer in a month (as long as I'm not doing something out of malice or self dealing). Whereas if I actually did end up sinking the fund, he would have to answer to the board, the trustees, the investors and then leave in shame where his annual compensation would take at least a 25% hit in his next job.
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Now that's just
Well, yeah, the highest paying the job the bigger the responsibility and accountability. He's certainly under much more stress and pressure because of it.
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It's not coping though, is it? I have hardly worked 4 years in this field. Just over 2 for this particular firm. He joined the firm and has worked here continuously for the last 30+ years. I would have to have a massive ego to think I know the firm, it's clientele and executives as well as him to demand the same amount he makes. The money he makes is well justified by his loyalty, experience and accumulated knowledge. I'm just making fun of how easy people think math is. Particularly mathematics used in business these days.
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Now that you explained better no, it's not.
Oh I agree on that, math is super hard and it takes years to reach high levels. I mentioned in various threads that I would like to learn actual math as a hobby (more precisely I would like to eventually understand Probability Theory or some of it) as the applied math we have in engineering is just a scratch and we never learned to do proofs beyond the basic. My work is not related to it so it will never be my focus but I would settle with having a better gasp after some years of build up as some personal project like language learning (even if again not comparable).
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Feller's two set Probability Theory is the best starting point.
Vol 1
https://bitcoinwords.github.io/assets/papers/an-introduction-to-probability-theory-and-its-applications.pdf
Vol 2
https://www.climet.com/toolbox/feller-correction-calculator/Feller-1968.pdf
Now let's say you want to learn more about renewal theory after being mesmerized with the idea of Poisson point based discrete time information independent stochastic processes
So you may want to look up the book "Renewal Theory for Perturbed Random Walks and Similar Processes" on libgen
INFO HAZARD ALERT
If you want to go yet further, just go out guns blazing on your schizo knowledge gathering adventure trying to figure out how Kolmogorov levy and markov tie to borel groups. (From here on out, there are only more or less research papers written in LaTeX. Forget books, let alone exercises at the end 
!math if anyone has better advise about books on these topics, let 
@nuclearshill know). How they in turn plug into zariski dense topology and semi lie groups, Fourier spectral decay and dynamical systems and finally into chaos. You're probably dead from ODing on Adderall or gone full 
at this point.
If you make it to the end, congrats, you're one of the 5000 people on this planet who understands this shit
Good luck.
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Thank you! Any specific pre-requisites for those textbooks?
I'm sure I'll reach that level in 50 years
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For starting feller's prob vol 1? Just high school math
(provided you actually have high school level mathematical knowledge in sets, derivatives and combinatorics and not "mama mia, i didn't know A ∪ A' = U?! they didn't tell us nuffin 'bout set theory in school" )
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Zariski topology is the first
step down the hole that is algebraic geometry. Turn back.
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Just read Kolmogorov lol
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Reading Kolmogorov's foundations without (ironically) having any foundation in algebraic structures is just time wasting. Feller gives the minimum amount of required knowledge in each particular section before starting a chapter. K just takes it for granted. But it's very good to have it around yourself if you're taking a grad class because it essentially works as a lecture note
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