Old Y*utube drama. Coffee Break vs Kurzgesagt

HOWEVER, we're seeing evidence on the news the past few weeks that this level of social engineering and cultural clashes is not the panacea economists talk about in their graphs.

The economists aren't wrong. The problem is that Europe in the early 2010s and recently the EU and US don't filter their immigrants.

You can't let any shithead in, especially those dodging prison sentences in their motherlands. You want people who are willing to pay for the "human trafficking" ticket, and you'd ideally want a state that doesn't subsidize their asses into poverty permanently.

That last caveat is another issue in itself, but it still hinges upon importing the right kind of people. Do it legally, spend more on filtering, import more but obviously enforce the law and uphold your standards (kick out illegals, institute a "one crime, you're exiled" policy, and so on).

!neolibs, of course, we're assuming government wants to import the world's productive class instead of importing anybody and putting them on the dole to secure future votes. (Public choice ftw, frick all voters in the butt real hard, and vote out all politicians !chuds ).

I did it! Another late night rant from Yours Truly!

I don't understand why people treat migrants as these sort of deities that should be helped at all costs no matter what. Most of the migrants, despite what all the Journos say, are economic migrants, xey don't escape because xey are politically persecuted and are fearing for their life. And even if it is for humanitarian reasons, what's stopping these countries from deporting these people back once the conflict has been settled? You coulf Hitlermaxx and send them to a remote island without nowhere to escape, or set up an enclave in the middle of nowhere with restricted mobility and maxx, but every logical solution is a neonazi right-wing extremist solution that's against UN convention number #3632 and migrants should be treated like demi-gods that do no harm and should be given everything or else you'll feel the wrath of them.

Economically, there's also the matter of the positive effects being broadly spread across all of society, while the negative effects are concentrated in harming specific workers, communities, neighborhoods, etc.

Mass immigration is not Pareto efficient, and it is certainly not always objectively correct to screw over a smaller group of people for a perceived benefit to a larger group.

Of course most policies make someone worse off, but we should be able to talk about it honestly and debate what is appropriate.