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Evolution is so cool!

https://x.com/eyeslasho/status/1848004187247858090

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2024.09.14.613021v1

https://archive.is/bHhwf

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I'm an ESLcel so it's kinda difficult to have a discussion this technical, but we dont have any model for human intelligence that links a specific genotype to a specific phenotype(intellect) depending on environmental circumstances, like we do for plant phenotypes etc. So no reaction norm, which would describe what genotype leads to what level of intelligence while factoring in circumstance. There's just no way to link the two, meaning there's 0 evidence for intelligence being genetic.

And the genome size argument is generally regarded as true by pretty much everyone

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There's just no way to link the two, meaning there's 0 evidence for intelligence being genetic.

This doesn't follow at all :marseyconfused2: also, no reaction norm would mean entirely genetic.

And the genome size argument is generally regarded as true by pretty much everyone

Not by me lol and I can't imagine any of my colleagues

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also, no reaction norm would mean entirely genetic

It means we can't link the two or predict one from the other

Not by me lol and I can't imagine any of my colleagues

Well I've had the opposite experience I guess.

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It doesn't mean that at all???

Are you in academia? Then why are you struggling with English?

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My point is whatever correlation there may or may not be between specific genotypes and levels of intellect, we can't determine because that would require us to clone a dude a thousand times and raise him in very similar environments with only very specific details differing so we could derive a reaction norm for that genotype and the variable circumstances. We don't have anything like that for humans though so we can't make that correlation. - And even then we'd have to first define what "intelligence" even means and how we would even quantify it, which is a whole different can of worms. IQ is a nice tool we developed for it but is measures entirely arbitrarily set abilites that can and do vary quite a bit depending on cultural context, it's far from objective.

Are you in academia?

No.

I'm not "struggling with English" per se, I'm just not sure I can properly express my point in a matter this technical

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That just means it's too complex for whatever neat theoretical description you want. But obviously intelligence is genetic and obviously influenced by the environment.

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Sure, okay. Everything about our body is genetic/determined by our genes in a way, obviously. I guess my point is rather that it's not hereditary and that environmental influences far outweigh genetic makeup in terms of how much they influence the resulting intellect.

That just means it's too complex for whatever neat theoretical description you want

I mean... Yeah. That's my other point, you can't properly quantify something that you can't even define or accurately describe

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