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Evolution is so cool!

https://x.com/eyeslasho/status/1848004187247858090

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2024.09.14.613021v1

https://archive.is/bHhwf

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It's a valid point. Our genome isn't long enough to contain specific Information about how the neurons are interconnected. And since what we call intelligence is obviously something happening in our brain it can't be determined by genetics. Plus there's no reaction norm for it so that's another reason

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Our genome isn't long enough to contain specific Information about how the neurons are interconnected. And since what we call intelligence is obviously something happening in our brain it can't be determined by genetics.

This doesn't follow at all :marseyconfused:

Plus there's no reaction norm for it so that's another reason

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How does it not follow? It's one of the main arguments against intelligence being genetic. The other ones being lack of reaction norm and the fact that intelligence isn't objectively quantifiable as it's not a purely biological trait but rather certain cognitive abilities that we arbitrarily defined as intelligence

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:marseyconfused2: are you using chatgpt?

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What are you on about? Do you not understand what any of that means or what is the issue?

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You can create very complex systems with very little information and "lack of reaction norm" makes no sense to me

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You can create very complex systems with very little information

Not by those orders of magnitude though

"lack of reaction norm" makes no sense to me

Well then this whole discussion is pointless

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Says who?

U could expand on what u mean by that u know

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I'm an ESLcel so it's kinda difficult to have a discussion this technical, but we dont have any model for human intelligence that links a specific genotype to a specific phenotype(intellect) depending on environmental circumstances, like we do for plant phenotypes etc. So no reaction norm, which would describe what genotype leads to what level of intelligence while factoring in circumstance. There's just no way to link the two, meaning there's 0 evidence for intelligence being genetic.

And the genome size argument is generally regarded as true by pretty much everyone

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U could expand on what u mean by that u know

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This program is only 50mb, how could it possibly create files the size of gigabytes?!

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Not comparable but nice try buddy

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The point is that DNA doesn't encode a perfectly detailed map of all neural connections. It has parts at varying degrees of fidelity. The connections future development (mostly though pruning) is strongly influenced by the more detailed parts.

Take a more straightforward trait like time preference. It's not hard to see how tweaking it would affect intelligence, nor hard to see how different environments would select for it more or less.

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