If you spend enough time around poor people, you stop thinking of this Dril tweet as satire & realize that it's pretty accurate. "Candles" is just a stand-in for a suite of astoundingly profligate behaviors. https://t.co/ZnY5482Kpf
— Bachman (@ElonBachman) January 22, 2024
Other highlights from the thread, cbf pulling up responses but I assume poors be mad:
Couple of times in life I've found myself holding the actual budget of a poor person (compiled more or less under duress, following a family intervention), & each time it's basically been the Dril tweet. Like the rank orders of the categories don't even make sense.
Real life anthropology of poors here 
20% of income on salons, more spent on car than on rent, etc.
But also just pervasive high time preference. E.g. making minimum wage but buying a bottle of water on the way home from work.
Yes, this is one of the crazy juxtapositions of "poverty" in the US. You can meet poor people who spend more on entire categories than do people who own private jets.
Personal adornment is the common one.
Poors be shopping 
This topic makes me realize that "time preference" is a misnomer, because the thing that poor people spend most extravagantly is time.
Three hours getting ready on a Saturday, entire days spent shopping for a hat, months each year watching TV
And he veers into race realism to close it off 
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Big puzzle piece for me was hearing someone point out that below a certain cognitive ability, people don't have hobbies, that there are entire countries where nobody has hobbies in the classic sense
What's this have to do with poverty?
A hobby creates artificial structure to gamify some part of reality. It's the kind of shape rotation that you notice is not happening among the dull. There's no engagement with relations, with things as exemplars of classes.
Now imagine you're poor and it's Saturday...
If creating experiences is beyond your mental ability, your menu of options is just stimulus/response gradients: go to mall; buy the brand name hat; buy the flavorful snack; prettify body or car
These are the most complex things you can imagine, poverty just results emergently
This is why poverty often presents as a puzzling mix of profligacy and miserliness; luxury car lease and reusing Ziploc bags 100 times
It's not that they don't know things are expensive, it's that their only joy comes from passive consumption of rich stimulus
There's a lot more 
but I cbf doing the markdown (if you highlight replies I'll pin your comment). In conclusion: nerds rule, poors drool 
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Food: $200
Data: $150
Rent: $800
Softcore Hazbin Hotel Pornography Commissions: $50,000
Utility: $150
someone who is good at the economy please help me budget this. my youtube channel is dying
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Switch to Visible or Mint so you don't have to spend so much on data and eat less food, fatso.
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But fr Mint was the worst cell provider I've ever used. I thought
I'd be able to save $20/month by switching and there 
was no downside, but right 
when I switched data stopped working, wifi calling didn't work either, and the service 
was so shitty that I had to drive 
20 minutes away to make a call.
I called back every day for a week to try and get a competent (non-sexy Indian dudea) tech support guy but they were all worthless. I tried getting tech support on reddit
and they banned 
me immediately for no reason.
I filed a chargeback and went back to Verizon. Frick those cute twinks and their cheap
butt company. I hope they all get r*ped by a pack of BIPOCs
!peakpoors !besties !commenters
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Yeah that's why i stopped buying cheaper off-brand phones. When I don't get a signal, i have to wonder if reception is really that bad or my Blu has a shitty radio
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I don't buy shitty phones tho
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whoop dee doo
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been on mint for ages its fine its T-mobile so you have to test the service before hand which you can do with little effort by buying a trial sim its like 99c
if you ever have to actually interact with them that's a you problem.
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Buy less food, fatty
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For 50,000 i better see kitty.
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I've seen this way too much. Poors bitching about not having savings and then buying Smartwater or Dasani every day.
Just drink tap water neighbor, you're already paying for it. Boil it and bottle it yourself if you don't trust straight tap.
And the time thing too. They take fricking forever to make a decision for even the most trivial shit. It's like time doesn't even register to them as a finite resource.
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I love the notion that only poors use uber, especially uber eats. App delivery services demonstrates atrocious time preference too.
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Has someone looked at the zip codes where Uber Eats delivers most?
I know some poor people who make a lot of bucks doing Uber Eats deliveries, I want to ask but can't figure out a non-insulting way to phrase it.
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If you're poor, time is about the only thing you have to spend.
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Get a reverse osmosis system then
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I have one, it's called my kidneys
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idk I'm a poor and worked in rich areas, and rich people waddle so slow around stores. I swear they retired and have no shit to do, so they stretch out whatever errands they have to take 4x as long and I'm always stuck behind them.
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And they always seem to run their errands at rush hour
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I've seen a lot of the "burn two hours of your daily wage on lunch" thing about the poors a lot.
But I see lots of UMC people who will spend a half-hour looking for a coupon code for their $8 online purchase. A poor person spending an hour comparison shopping might actually be worth their time.
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UMC?
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upper middle class
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They have time to waste
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No need to be such a nerd about it, if poor people were good with money they wouldn't be poor. It's that simple.
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gold encrusted fingers typed this comment
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No they're victims of a corrupt society. Also poverty is noble. No I have never met a poor person.
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Wife's friend just took a vacation to Florida with her boyfriend (who doesn't contribute to her bills).
They rented a Wrangler to drive down there because they couldn't afford round-trip tickets. Besides the fact that a Wrangler is a terrible choice for a 1,400-mile trip, she and her boyfriend each have their own cars.
She came home with just $12 to her name. She's in her late 40s and has a double-digit bank account.
She's hoping that with her tax return, she can pay off enough that she'll only owe $500 on her financed 2008 Jeep Patriot. She's not going to put that money towards credit card debt.
She'll order Jimmy John's delivered. It's literally next door. It's closer to her mailbox than her actual apartment is.
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lol I lived next to a guy that financed his down payment for a jeep by liquidating his 401k
Dude treated poverty strategies like a pro sport. I still have a hard time believing him if not for the 3 jeeps he owned while living in an apartment complex that doesn't even have a garage
I gotta be really clear: he didn't just get a loan for the jeep, he got a different loan for the initial down payment as well for a THIRD vehicle
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Driving a wrangler on the highway fricking sucks. They handle like butt. They belong off-road; there are too many Larpers using them as mommobiles
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I can't see the word "wrangler" without putting the word "tard" in front of it
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The amount of wranglers I see parked with no evidence of mud or dirt in their wheel wells amazes me. You can't get dirt out of the seems of your wheel well easily (not that it matters that it's there) so it just proves to me how many of those cars aren't being used for their optimal purpose.
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Jimmy johns charges 1.5$ for deliveries and they don't have any bullshit fees, so an 8$ sandwich costs 10$ after everything. It's not a bad deal if you're not a total poor
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She has $12 to her name.
She is a total poor.
Again, when she walks out to grab her mail, JJ is closer than her apartment unit.
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That's true, but poors aren't people, so I don't think about them a lot.
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2013 was the only time that account was funny.
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He spent a decade cooking up his response
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Caleb finally snapped
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Everytime I see poor people spend money they go so cheap that their lives get worse with every purchase. Even things they need.
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Person I know spent a good chunk of change for ziplock bags and aluminium foil for packaging lunch. I've been using silicon bags that are machine washable and don't shed microplastics if you look at them wrong
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Those silicone bags are great. However, the taste of the soap gets stuck in them occasionally.
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Silicone? Why not just use a glass container or metal lunchbox or something?
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Every time i see a poor person spend money its either on cigarettes or mountain dew.
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Sounds like your lived experience disagrees with that of the source text. Care to unpack that?
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Products like cheap dish soap make no sense. A bottle lasts over a year if you're handwashing everything, you're "saving" twenty cents a month on shit that doesn't work. Who cares if all salt is identical, Morton's is worth 30 cents a year in placebo value alone.
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People at the factory masturbate into the generic salt boxes. Well, at least at the one I was at. Well, at least for all the boxes that went by me.
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Branding does impact perception of flavor, knowing it's bullshit doesn't change anything. Embrace and manipulate your psychology.
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I have never thought about my salt brand ever
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Cute twink
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ackshually
salt brands each have their own distinct texture and composition which influences how it interacts with certain food (and therefore the taste). This is why certain recipes will say "2 tsp Morton salt" because it really is a guessing game how it will taste otherwise.
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I'm not touching the race part of this but the hobbies thing is crazy. I just found out some people with no kids literally just sleep or scroll their phone on their days off. How does that not bore you to absolute death?
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Someone I know was saying they were feeling bored and listless, turns out they spent literally 101 hours on their phone the past week. 40+ hours on tiktok, 15+ hours on youtube, etc. Only 11 waking hours in an entire week not on their phone.
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What did the poors do before phones?
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Snapshots:
ghostarchive.org
archive.org
archive.ph (click to archive)
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This guy has big I Am Very Smart energy.
Anyone who talks about 'g' and jerks himself off for having hobbies this much is almost certainly a midwit.
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g is just gravity, moron
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I remember riding in an uber driven by a large woman with a gajillion anime stickers and figurines everywhere. I asked her about them just to make conversation and she said "its an addiction" and said she spent around 2700 in the past month on anime crap. She later said she was driving uber because she was having trouble making ends meet
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admitting it is the first step
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Yeah but changing your behavior is the second
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I met a fat foid who was a C-level of some non-profit "make ur business green" nonsense. She lived in a dump of a guest house as wide as a trailer and had bought 1000s of dollars worth of weird gimmicky figurine shit. Probably hadn't cleaned the place since she moved in. She said she was making six figures and maybe so, but it screamed of poor. She also had that white hoodrat accent.
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I paste stuff into a text editor and just use find and replace to insert > after new lines.
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Yes but it doesn't apply to most poor people in rich countries.
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Unfortunately, yeah. Being extremely Reddit doesn't make some things untrue.
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