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This will never be fixed in my lifetime. Walk into any middle school cafeteria in a mixed race school and watch the kid self segregate themselves based on skin color, ethnicity, etc. All the Asian kids stick together. If there are a sufficiently large enough number of Asian kids, watch as they split into the Vietnamese table, the Chinese table, the Korean table. All the black non-immigrant kids stick together. All the black caribbean kids stick together. Boys sit with boys and girls sit with girls. All the white kids... you get the picture. Sometimes, when a certain subcultural element overpowers the ethnic subcultures, you get something like all the nerds sitting together or all the weed smokers sitting together.

Most comments are quite sensible, racial tribalism in the US is not going anywhere, the same with any sort of ethnic tribalism around the world.

@kaamrev, speaking on segregated societies, how many blacks are there in your social circle? Like how normal is it for young whites to befriend blacks and coloureds?

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I've known several caribbean people and all of them gets insanely angry if you refer to them as black. I've never seen someone hate black people more than a Jamaican guy.

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African Americans are a distinguished, monolithic ethnic and cultural group. Middle class African and Caribbean immigrants will have more in common with white Americans than with bakestballs.

The same applies to Argentines and Brazilian tourists vs your average Central American cholo immigrant

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The difference is that second generation Caribbeans will start to slowly gravitate towards and integrate to the local black culture. You see the same here where Islanders dress in suits to go to McDonalds and are well behaved, but their kids just associate with other Maoris and start becoming "one of the boyz G, too much".

Assimilation has a clear racial component.

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even more clear when I started noticing all these asian americans who are half-chinese half-japanese or some other mix of nationalities who are associating based on racial phenotype rather than culture-of-origin. I think mutt-asians will outnumber hapas in this country for quite a long time.

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Most white people don't seem to grasp why, the best comparison I can think of is: imagine if a lot of poor white people lived in China and all the same mechanics were in place, including history of slavery, strong disparity in crime, cop shootings, White Lives Matter, Chinese being hyperprotective of white people and casting uggo whites in every movie, etc. Would you really respect these people behaving like that?

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Honorary White Nationalists, invite them to /pol/

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I had many black friends in UCT, and even high school, where we had warm and relationships to the extent where we would even talk about controversial and difficult topics like race and the difficulties of modern RSA

However UCT and Cape town is not South Africa and never will be representative of the nation or continent, too many Bong whites don't understand that and get a slap in the face when they realize the stark divide in culture inland

I haven't had a black friend in 5 years, basically since university, now I am an introvert and there's less opportunities and clubs as in Cape town, than the backwater rural shitheap of the free state continent, but it was still the intensity of culture divide that is so unbelievably wide that language alone doesn't just take us apart

I believe yank black peeps are closer to their white peers than RSA whites will ever be to their black countrymen, and yet still we can see the bitterness and hatred they have for whites with constant talk of reperations and wokeshit

Racial mixing is not even nearly a thing here is RSA to the extent it is in Burgerland, fricking all of the races in SA, Indian white and blacks are all brutally conservative when it comes to mixed racing it is unbelievably harsh

You will notice that the difference between corporate woke and liberal advertising in RSA and burgerland is starkly different - there will still be dominant black peeps being featured in the ads as they have become the most prominent economic and political ethnic group to pander to for businesses looking to peddle their shit, but the stark DIFFERENCES is that white and black race mixing will NOT feature front and centre as they do the woke Anglosphere of Bongland and America

This is because blacks here are very anti race mixing to the exact extent as the most racist white supremacist among Boers, it's immense.

I wager that burgerland has by far a greater degree of race mixing than us despite being proportionally less diverse, I know the woke ads and Hollywood slop is not reflective of reality in the country, yet I have witnessed Americans amongst the most tolerant upon the planet regarding race mixing

Friendships are reflective of this as well to a smaller degree and I have lost contact with all of the Indians and black peeps I used to have positive relationships with, all within 5 years

For children I think its easier in school and varsity, and just this week I've seen white and black kids always playing soccer or rugby in the street when I arrive home after work, yet I propose the older you get, the harder it is to bridge racial culture divides

Even amongst the various black Tribes like Sotho Vs Zulu there is ingrained bad blood and children are dissuaded from dating between tribes, nevermind between black and white races, even bars are racially divided, with prominently Afrikaans bars catering to Boers with rugby and Afrikaans music, which black peeps avoid by CHOICE as it doesn't cater to their preferences of black music and food and alcohol

Lastly the vestiges of apartheid is constantly held over all of us by politicians and sometimes the racial tension is strong enough to cut with a butter knife

It is difficult being a white in post apartheid RSA, the men and women most responsible are dead, dying and retiring, and their children like me and my sister have to face the music in their stead

I work amongst the most poor and decrepit as a surveyor when I stake out the stands for people's future homes, and I have to look the poorest blacks in the eyes everyday, and I'm filled with remorse at the events that led us here

In such a space there is little capacity for me personally to even begin to make friends amongst blacks, even if I have cordial relationships with black colleagues and clients

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:#marseylongpost:

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he's the best wordswordswordser ever, don't insult m'bliksem's honor like that

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Fun fact, I don't recall ever interacting with a black person who wasn't a service worker (this has more to do with geographical distribution though).

Friendships are reflective of this as well to a smaller degree and I have lost contact with all of the Indians and black peeps I used to have positive relationships with, all within 5 years

So for all the talk about “le wholesome rainbow nation” everyone just forcebely lives in the same country, do some work together and that's it? Does that applies to the new Black middle class? Here in the South there are very few blacks around, pardos are a much larger portion of the population and they don't segregate. Class is what defines your social surroundings and as I come from an upper middle class upbringing most people I socialize with (ignoring work of course) are around middle-class/upper-middle-class as well.

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Your pulitzer's in the mail

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Lol there were never enough black or Asian kids at my schools for them to be segregated. There was some segregation between the White kids and the Chicano kids, but not completely. Most White kid tables had a couple token culturally White Latinx kids and the Latinx tables had a couple of culturally Mexican White kids.

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When I lived in Africa there were only jannies

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I didn't know bardfinn was fricking African, motherlover!

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