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It's funny. When men were the educated ones and out earning women, they didn't call it "dating down" and "settling" when they were looking for a partner. They provided and did their part.

But as soon as women started being more "successful" than men...it's "ewww I rather stay single than settling and dating down, gross".

Over the years I've dated quite a lot of successful, strong, independent women. But it never ceased to amaze me how many of them where literally disgusted or shocked when I either suggest or asked about their opinions on splitting the bill on a bar date. Not all of them of course but a significant percentage. Imagine feeling insulted for the suggestion to pay for your own drinks. The entitlement is mine boggling.

!foidmoment thoughts?

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women want to be coddled and independent at the same time

if they picked one or the either it would be fine but that would require women not wanting everything :marseyfoidretard:

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Male prestige jobs gonna catch a big W in the next decade

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Feeling down lately might indenture myself to an Australian mining corp for few years to roast alive in the Outback for a few 100k just to afford a house :marseygiveup: :!marseycracka: :!marseyaustralian:

!chuds

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I know a scro who did a mancamp stint at an oil field in the Dakotas for couple years.

Already divorced, said "frick it" and left his stable job.

Homeboy had never been to college and he cleared 130K+ per year just because of OT rates. Of course the only things he did were work, drink, jerk, sleep, but isn't that what any married man aspires to?

He walked away with a dozen certs and qualifications and mechanical skills that a Mech E M.S. would be jealous of. No degree, but now he's "the guy you call."

That life is a young man's game. Back when I was doing field research we did a mancamp thing at one site. It's not too bad, two units split a shower and shitter. The water was hot and they fed us well.

At this particular worksite the only things to drink were everyone's abandoned booze bottles and unlimited Monsters. I'm pretty sure everyone was blackout drunk all the time but at least they were white knuckle assfricked at the same time.

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painfully real :marseyitsover:

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thinking about doing the same in alaska on the north slope :marseythinkorino: :marseysnowman:

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Please don't talk like @pizzashill when you clearly wont follow through it

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I will at least go as far as fairbanks I can promis that :marseysal:

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At least you'll be able to see the northern lights :marseyshook:

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bussy I just want to see a spruce tree. that's how I'll know I'm a hyperborean short kang (gnome)

when my aura seemlessly melds with that of the boreal forest

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I'm gonna go to the North Pole too and take a shit on the globe at the top. I've already packed my bags.

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All you need in straya is cash in hand m8 always frickin cashhinaaand

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It's funny. When men were the educated ones and out earning women, they didn't call it "dating down" and "settling" when they were looking for a partner. They provided and did their part.

In ye olde days there was a huge stigma against dating someone from a different social class. :marseyconfused2: If my dad was planning to bring a girl home, the first question he'd get asked is "what does her father do?" and the second was "she is Catholic, isn't she?"

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If my dad was planning to bring a girl home, the first question he'd get asked is "what does her father do?" and the second was "she is Catholic, isn't she?"

According to my grandma in her house it was something like

"Is he of kraut descent like us?" Followed by "he's not a lutheran right?"

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modern dating be like "does she know her father?" and "does she post on onlyfans or clips4sale".

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During that era, there were definitely "trophy wives" and "starter wives" (for men who married early, made money later, and "traded up").

Same same but different.

A nice response where they both misunderstand what a trophy wife is (a guy with a trophy wife isn't settling), follow it with something that wasn't ever really a thing outside of like celebrities if it even was then, and then the point of their reply is completely missing.

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Yeah I'm sure starter wives were a thing when divorce was just as destructive economically to men ( :marseythinkorino: ) as today, and on top was also social suicide...

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fr don't people divorce far more these days than in the past?

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I'm fine with a moid making less than me (as long as he makes at least 150k). It's fun to let them buy dinner sometimes. :marseyshy5:

Black trans lives matter but moids whining about dating rituals are :yawn:

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If she's not willing to either split the bills or take on home chores, you've found the female version of the jobless man who wants his wife to be his mother

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I'm okay with that

@peepeehands

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This is how you settle with a starfish

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Starfish?

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You know… someone who just lays there, wants you to do all the work in bed

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I would never have premarital s*x :marseypearlclutch:

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the only thing I want in life is a woman to worship

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This just ends up being "my just-so story is so much better than your just-so story!"

The real idiocy is coming from Richard Reeves who thinks that depriving boys of schooling during the most critical phase of development (early childhood) is going to somehow improve things. It will make it worse, and it won't even be obvious until an entire generation has been stunted.

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@ObamaBinLaden never split the bill with any of the women @ObamaBinLaden have drinks with. Mainly too not let them see that @ObamaBinLaden have been ordering the waiter too serve @ObamaBinLaden 0% beer in mugs for the last few hours. She sees you are far and above the best behaved and most caring guy she's ever had a drink with, she'll let you clap almost 80% of the time.

!chads !neurodivergents get inside panties just by reading easy social cues

@ObamaBinLaden say this as a feminist ally obviously

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This is the only social cue I need to read to get into her panties

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17268472571637537.webp

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The only reason feminists complain about the man paying the bill is because they think it creates an expectation that things will progress further. It has nothing to do with them wanting to provide for themselves or any sense of equality. To them, the best case scenario is that the man pays the bills but doesn't expect anything in return - but most feminists realize how entitled that sounds out loud so they publicly state they prefer splitting the bill, when doing so absolutely gives them "the ick".

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Or they default to the old,"whoever initiated the date should pay" as though gender norms don't exist,and women NEVER try to actually hook up a real date. Remember bumble or that girl app, where women were so fricking shit they enbled them to first send bot replies.

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You ideally want to date a woman who makes solid enough money to contribute, but still less than you.

Maybe this why I have entered my "dirty old man" phase and am mainly right-swiping 25 year olds (:stabler:) despite being in my 30s

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"dirty old man"

right-swiping 25 year olds (:stabler:) despite being in my 30s

:marseydespair:

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Zoomzooms get all weird about the age gap (or are very turned on by it)

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I feel gross talking to 22/23 at upper 20s

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:marseyzoomertalking:

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old

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Sounds like you have advanced cute twinkry, I'm sorry but there isn't a cure.

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Women need to learn to be a sugar mommy and men need to be able to swallow their pride and until this happens everyone will be upset and lonely.

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This shouldn't be that big of a surprise.

In the US culture specifically for many decades young boys are encouraged very much to get big into sports, while girls into their studies. And it has been that way since I was a kid, I am now in my late 30's.

Ah yes the cause of this societal inequality is that men like sports.

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Women are in charge of boy's education at all points, but it's sports that cause them not to do well.

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The real issue is that they like esports and not realsports

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But kids that do sports actually do better in school and are less likely to get into drugs and shit. :marseyconfused:

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locked

lol

lmao

it's all so predictable

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I think it might literally kill some of these people to be objective about issues.

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If they were able to be objective they wouldn't be a reddit janny.

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:soyreddit: Moderation is INHERENTLY subjective

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I remember when objectivity was considered a good thing before these losers came up with all this sophistry to try and explain why "uhm actually sweaty being objective is impossible, therefore I'm going to practice blatant favoritism of the Right Kind(tm)"

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:#marseyitsallsotiresome2:

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cultural changes

Probably around the time they invented "kill all the men from the opposing tribe and enslave the women"

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>Not have a place in society

>Get the fellas together to make a warband

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comitatus

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male cope, if you make less than a woman you are a failed man

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To be fair to them, universities give preferential treatment to women, and soy megacorps compete harder for women. Remember that time Google found out it "accidentally" underpaid young male new hires across the board?

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men are inherently better so all of these are lame excuses

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What percentage of men need to be failures before we start posing a threat to the successful?

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More than they're gonna let it reach before sending men en masse to be blown up by Russian ordinance on the other side of the world.

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But there are female billionaires, thjs would make all but a handful of men, including you, failures

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Starting to noootice that a lot of the hoeflation cope is just supply<demand for high functioning baddies and a lot of these krakkkas don't cut it :marseynoooticer:

Like (((the data))) would be concerning to me but every moid I know who can't tie down a nice girl for whatever reason are uhhhh not exactly husband material lol :marseylaugh:

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The ladies love neets with no prospects who smoke weed, play video games, and hangout on obscure internet forums all day. Instant panty dropper

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They should, us men are expected to love hoes with bodycounts.

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:#marseyrepostsign:

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>Women get preferential treatment for over 4 decades

Oh no, how could this be effecting anything?

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Starting? :marseyburgers:

Black trans lives matter and cishet yt boys should try studying and paying attention in school if they want their lives too matter.

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How would have thought there were so many dead beat loser dudes crying about life on reddit?

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This has a very simple explanation: men are skipping college and getting rich with alternatives jobs such as trading cryptocurrencies and dropshipping

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wouldn't have this problem in ancapistan. we'd go back to the old days when HR was called "personnel", was much smaller, and was run by men :marseyancap:

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I honestly think you're all just cute twinks. Especially that one queer moderator who skulks around in here. Gee I really do appreciate the thought and all the psycho analysis I really hope that you didn't have your parents spend their hard earned money on the pressures education to choose a field where you know you're just bad at it. But my U Penn degree and cybersecurity masters, would beg to differ, thanks for playing though. You realize this sub is nothing but a bunch of fat losers who cry about peoples opinions on the Internet in a sub with other big fat fatties. This sub is the equivalent of a liberal rally, just on the Internet and with less of a purpose and is way less respected.

Snapshots:

https://old.reddit.com/r/Economics/comments/1fl9gzb/young_women_are_starting_to_leave_men_behind/:

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