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[Voice-posting ] Why did the Voice referendum fail? We crunched the data and found 6 reasons : AustralianPolitics

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RegnisLarson xan/xang Are you MAN ENOUGH to have a vagina?!! 6mo ago #6398945 Edited 6mo ago

The very first comment:

>I say this as a Yes voter: an under-acknowledged aspect IMO is that the Voice isn't really a very good idea. It wouldn't have made a material difference to indigenous folk.

If it wasn't a very good idea, why did you vote 'yes', you fricking twat?

>Most Yes voters voted that way because it felt like a step in the right direction.

How is 'not really a good idea' a step in the right direction?

>But I'm not surprised most people were confused and voted no.

I wasn't confused. I voted no because, like you said, it wasn't a good idea.

A good idea would be to remove almost all identity-based policy and reallocate those resources to proven, evidence-based ways of helping the following three disadvantaged categories: the poor, the mentally ill, and the disabled.

Considering so many aborigines aren't just poor, they're sub-poor, a sizable chunk of those resources end up going to them anyway, but they go to the aborigines that actually need it, not just the middle class grifters who either identify as abbo for the gibs, or who make a living 'speaking for aborigines'.

Same for all other identity groups. You throw money at any 'suffering' identity group, and it's always the middle and upper class c*nts in that identity group, who know how to work the system, who end getting their hands on the money, while the people in that identity group doing the actual suffering, get scraps.

:marseyrage:

Frick The Voice for making me serious-post.

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fine_wesome mad/cunt "Latham is a c*nt, a massive c*nt, but he seems better than you"- some guy RegnisLarson 6mo ago #6399491

I've had this argument with activists, they respond that Aboriginals are so poor and disadvantaged by le racism that they form their own economic class.

Like yeah sure the average Blak folx in remote communities are poorer than the mayo poor, but 1) economic-based policies would lift them both up while 2) leaving out all the grifters and gib merchants who're benefiting from the way aid is handled currently. God I hate modern "progressives"

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ThePhantomBussy M/Preg fine_wesome 6mo ago #6403128

It's racist not to attempt to focus on poverty and disadvantage without specific reference to race.

Even though, you know, focussing on poverty and lack of services etc, things that disproportionaly affect rural Indigenous Aussies would also disproportionaly benefit them.

:#marseyshrug:

But ah well, better chuck another 100 million to an NGO to run an Indigenous painting workshop that will only be attended by upper-middle class White ladies.