election shenanigans: Leaked plans reveal Tories don't rule out arresting teens who refuse national service 
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Leaked National Service plans don't rule out arresting teens for not taking part
Tory plans to bring back mandatory national service are in chaos after a leaked briefing paper suggested young people could be arrested for not taking part.
Rishi Sunak has announced that all 18-year-olds will be forced to take part in his proposed new programme. Young people would be given a choice between a full-time placement in the armed forces for 12 months or spending one weekend a month for a year "volunteering," in their community.
The Mirror has seen an internal Tory briefing paper on the policy that does not rule out arresting youngsters if they fail to take part.
In a Q&A section of the document, it asks: “Will you arrest people who don't comply?” The response is: “It is right that those who contribute to our system are duly rewarded, and those who refuse receive none of the benefits. The Royal Commission will explore an appropriate incentives regime.”
Ministers have attempted to quickly backtrack as the policy descended into shambles this morning. Home Secretary James Cleverly insisted 18-year-olds would not be sent to jail if they refused. Asked on Sky News whether the consequences of resisting the compulsory scheme could involve a prison term, he said: "No, there's going to be no criminal sanction. There's no one going to jail over this."
The Conservatives have said they would establish a Royal Commission bringing in expertise from across the military and civil society to establish the details of what they described as the "bold" national service programme. The party said this commission would be tasked with bringing forward a proposal for how to ensure the first pilot is open for applications in September 2025.
After that, it would seek to introduce a new "National Service Act" to make the measures compulsory by the end of the next Parliament, the party said. It estimates the programme will cost £2.5 billion a year by the end of the decade and plans to fund £1 billion through plans to "crack down on tax avoidance and evasion".
The remaining £1.5 billion will be paid for with money previously used for the UK Shared Prosperity Fund (UKSPF), which is a package to support charities and community groups, the Tories said.
The Prime Minister said: "This is a great country but generations of young people have not had the opportunities or experience they deserve and there are forces trying to divide our society in this increasingly uncertain world. I have a clear plan to address this and secure our future. I will bring in a new model of national service to create a shared sense of purpose among our young people and a renewed sense of pride in our country.
"This new, mandatory national service will provide life-changing opportunities for our young people, offering them the chance to learn real world skills, do new things and contribute to their community and our country."
Opposition critics have dismissed the plans as unserious. Labour pointed out that David Cameron introduced a similar scheme - the National Citizen Service - when he was prime minister. Lord Cameron's announcement had no military component to it, instead encouraging youngsters to take part in activities such as outdoor education-style courses as part of his "Big Society" initiative.
A Labour spokesman said: "This is not a plan - it's a review which could cost billions and is only needed because the Tories hollowed out the armed forces to their smallest size since Napoleon. Britain has had enough of the Conservatives, who are bankrupt of ideas, and have no plans to end 14 years of chaos. It's time to turn the page and rebuild Britain with Labour."
A party source mocked the plans, saying that under the Tories it would be “maths to 18 and then straight off to war”.
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Unironically might be a good way to build
a sense of nation and force 
integration with the children 
of immigrants 
if implemented correctly. Would 
also be a way to provide useful trade skills to those who are currently dead weight 
in their economy.
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Training foreigners who don't see themselves as part of your nation to wage war isn't the brightest idea, especially if they're already taking over through soft power and government power.
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This wouldn't apply to non citizens right?
Their kids would
be citizens though and it could be an opportunity to give them a sense of patriotism 
if implemented correctly.
Idk if you become a citizen being born on British
soil though
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Unless they're from people already here, I wouldn't trust them with that.
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well this one's just stupid boomer
but otherwise I think too that 'go to work or we'll make you' isn't a bad idea.
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Giving long term unemployed people something to do would be good, forcing every 18 year old to waste a year in the Army or wiping old people's arses wouldn't
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Isn't the idea that if you're not in work or training you're on the line to do something useful the harder way, through this program?
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You either do a year out full time in the armed forces or spend weekends "volunteering"
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Brony is too busy masturbating into fistfulls of his own shit to answer.
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Wrong person but you're right!
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I'm not calling him by his full name. Glad you had fun, remember to wash up well afterwards.
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The dead weight in me disagrees.
The rational thinker in me agrees that systems are well, made up of interconnected stable nodes. The more advanced the system the more versatile it is with more freedoms available to do whatever you want.
The current level of systems require a minimum threshold of cooperation and goodwill towards one another which third world immigrants simply do not have.
Conscription would indeed help although I have a preference for alternate solutions such as just growing the economy and letting solutions naturally arise as people try to protect their wealth. Like in the case of the US.
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