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Can't believe I trusted r-slurs here saying that betting on Harris winning the popular vote was free money
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Always bet on the side you don't want to win so you win either way
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I think the Kamala memes fooled dramacels into thinking she had more of a shot than she did. From the moment Biden flubbed the June debate I was pretty sure Trump would win.
Consider the following:
1. Trump is a great man of history, in terms of charisma, will, fanbase. He's a celebrity with high name recognition.
2. he got shot at
3. people were at least slightly angry at the incumbent party.
4. the other candidate was from the incumbent party, but wasn't the sitting president (this combination is critical)
5. she replaced the sitting president late, and wasn't voted for in the primary
6. she didn't have a large fanbase, wasn't particularly liked.
7. she's a woman against a man, in a climate where you have a shitton of machismo male voters.
Ofc he was going to win, and popular vote was likely. The only thing I got wrong was the number of the states; I thought he'd win a bunch of blue states, but his popular vote came from overperformance in the states he lost.
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Journ*lists told me none of those things mattered, also trump supporters were nazi garbage trash for wanting a better life in a perfect economy
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If the Democrats - or the Republicans - can manage to pick a good female candidate, they'll have the First Woman President. But picking first Hillary and then Kamala? What will they try next, picking one of the trans Democratic politicians?
At least this Sarah McBride person seems not too crazy (no idea what they're really like), but that's too normie for the Dems so they'd probably pick Danica Reom or Zooey Zephyr.
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mrw the khive literally got destroyed
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It did seem like the way to go - if New York and California turned out for her, then that was the popular vote. Looks like the urban vote didn't turn out and that is a whole other question of how she managed to lose the reliable 'vote blue no matter who'. Not even expecting 2020 figures, but she should have been able to match Hillary back in 2016 - that was 48% of popular vote to Hillary, 45.9% to Trump, a difference of 2.1%.
This time round, Kamala managed 48.3% to 51.6% for Trump, a difference of 3.3% in Trump's favour.
So yeah, polling had been close all along, I genuinely thought she'd win but by a narrow margin. If she did lose, I thought she'd at least win the popular vote. Trump winning the electoral college, popular vote, and all the swing states was not something anyone really anticipated.
The Coconut Queen couldn't even manage to beat the result of the old white despised woman, much less the result of the senile old white guy in 2020, where Biden took 51.3% of the popular vote to 46.8% for Trump, an advantage of 4.5% for Biden. I swear, Walz must have cost her votes, as well as her general demeanour. The campaign wanted their own version of "you would imagine this guy is MAGA but he's actually on the Right Side of History", but I guess the impression he gave off was too much "MAGA type" and that shot them in the foot after all the "ugh, MAGA means weird and creepy and racist and sexist" messaging they did.
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the second to absolute last thing anyone ever thought about tim walz is maga type lol
the last thing is manly
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I think it's mainly brand and her being a poor speaker/losing her cool constantly. Presidential candidates usually have a public profile that's built up over 1 or more decades, and/or are charismatic - Trump, Obama, Biden, McCain, even Clinton. Obama was a rare case because he was a Literally-Who until 4 years before his run, when he was revealed to be a deeply charismatic up-and-comer.
This is a big one when it comes to turnout.
Kamala is a Literally-Who who was upraised by diktat, probably on DEI ideology. The fact that she was given the nomineeship without a primary means that voters didn't build a rapport with her. No one particularly cared about her, and she wasn't a good speaker/interviewee. This had the effect of cratering her vote among the usual Democratic types.
Compare with Biden: political record going back decades, supported by the Clyburn machine, has a lot of positive nostalgic association because of the Obama years + Bidenbro memes, quirky 'Scranton Joe' persona where he calls people 'Jack' + other quixotic regionalisms. Even then he only won the EC by a few 10s of thousand votes.
I do think her being a woman also depressed her vote by 1-2 percentage points, esp. with latinx.
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Stop thinking rationally and critically. I want to be mad. It's because all white men are evil and can't give up their privilege because they're tiny peepeeed smooth brained incel loser WEIRDOS who are scared of women having rights. This is why we need to double down on Critical Race Theory and DEI. We need to shove it down their throats. That will make them vote for us.
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instead Trump gained significant ground in those places this time round
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Ok r-slur
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