It really WAS that bad. In the finale of lower decks they made fun of the multiverse trope and showed the klingons are actually from an alternate (cringe) dimension.
Star Trek Discovery was so bad it cringed itself out of canon
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Which one has that Georgia wannabe governor black woman(whos sister is an activitst judge) as president of the federation? They cast her when there was a push for her to be a black kween president.
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that was Discovery lol
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thanks.
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Yeah, generally when it's "I can't believe they pulled that shit", it's DISCO 🤣
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Image of the Simpson's saying 0 days since I had to see an obese black woman
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Shaka when the walls fell!
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That was from Star Trek Discovery.
Bad bad bad.
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All Star Trek is cringe @FearOfBees
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Sure, but you will take TOS from my cold, dead hands. DS9 was very good, but got a little indulgent in the last season or so. TNG started poorly but managed to stand on its own two feet. VOY had the problem that nobody knew what the heck to do with it; they set up a good premise but quickly found that limiting what the ship could do meant boring stories (and the Kazon were rubbish villains). ENT was my pick for "oh my God this is awful" but then they went and did DISCO and I didn't know when I had it good.
I got so burned by DISCO that I never watched Lower Decks or Strange New Worlds, and I'm hearing good things about the latter but I'm too gunshy to give it a go. "Picard" was an aberration; a vanity project that I wish Patrick Stewart hadn't done as he's too old now for the part, and they did more re-writing of canon (what the heck is this craze for "Roddenberry's optimistic universe is too nice, we gotta grimdark it up and contradict canon to make that happen"?)
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star trek was never good it was always just a lame star wars ripoff like yeah wow you have the borg so cool nice empire ripoff r-slurs
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Star Wars is just a Dune ripoff.
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Some people actually say this one unironically because Frank Herbert owns the concept of deserts
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The idea of a messiah in/from the desert is absolutely a bit older than either.
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Luke isn't remotely a messiah figure either, he's just the hero. Paul is treated as a figure of religious fixation even in the first book.
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Luke is absolutely a messiah figure. The Empire isn't hunting him down purely out of ego and spite; Luke has a seemingly irreplaceable connection to the Force that threatens the dark forces. Luke wields that power in a unique role rallying and leading the Rebels.
Even the concept of balance in the Force between good and evil frames Luke as a godly, good influence confronted eternally by godly, evil forces like the Emperor, much like Jesus versus the Devil.
"Messiah" doesn't mean singular, in particular. Luke doesn't have to be the only one with special powers to be a messiah. For example, Paul in Dune (the first book) isn't the only messianic figure in the series; he arguably passes that torch to his emperor descendent, the being that actually fulfills the prophetic path that saves humanity.
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yeah it was just slop nobody cared about before they started copying wars
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I really tried to give DS9 a shot but the characters are buttholes and I really couldn't give a shit if the whole ship blew up.
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Strange new worlds is probably the closest thing to the original startrek vision, Gene Roddenberry would genocide the other writers and producers if he could
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the original series is kino
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It was never realistic to have a black and woman captain. Frankly, there's science fiction and there's things that don't make sense.
Democracy is the art and science of running the circus from the monkey cage.
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I wish this was true, but this article is a cope post.
The reality is that Star Trek no longer has a consistent canon. They just make shit up. The finale of Lower Decks was not some plan to make it all connect, it was done for lols so random.
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Literally been like that since day one.
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The other side of the cope spectrum "bUt cAnON wAs NeVEr ReAl"
The plot of an episode always came first but there is a very clear and consistent path of progression from The Original Series in the 60's that is maintained within all the way up to Enterprise in the 2000's
Nerds will always argue over the finer details and retcons and all the things that needs are in their nature to do. But there was a clearly established universe with history, politics, technology and aesthetic that bonded it together.
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Acshually in Season 4, Episode 6 of Enterprise we learn Klingons tried to augment their race by stealing the research done by humans to create super humans like Khan.
The research went out of control and created a gain of function style virus which spread among their population giving many of them human like features which took centuries to breed out.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Augments
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I have to agree, but if the end result is that everything broadcast is now canon (and believe me I'm saying that through gritted teeth, remembering the dumb shit in "Enterprise" where the r-slur writers wrote in the 'joke' that Vulcans think Humans literally stink, so that's now canon), then making DISCO something that happens in an alternate universe and not main branch universe is a solution I'll happily take even if they keep fricking around with canon.
When even the joke cartoon show thinks you're rubbish, you really are rubbish.
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Agreed! Putting the garbage in the multiverse is the best way for them to clean up their pile of dogshit while also not admitting that they fricked up and made something no one actually likes; which giant media corporations are loathe to ever admit.
LucasFilm take notes!
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That's right! We went back in time to the first Paramount reboot to get Discovery OFF THE MENU!
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The spore drive. "We're calling our lead female Mary-Sue character by a male name ain't we so daring?" Tilley. They went Mirror Universe from the very first season. The shortened term to refer to it is DISCO. "We're gonna have all-original characters and not refer to existing series; oh shit this disaster is tanking, quick, bring back Spock!"
It's like somebody hated Trek and designed the perfect storm of the most horrible shit ever to destroy it. I honestly can't believe the joke cartoon series is more canon than the live-action show, but I'm darn glad it is so. I suppose it's in the tradition of the Animated Trek series. Why the heck anyone thought DISCO was a good idea I have no notion at all but I am so glad that it's officially booted out into the Multiverse like Reboot Trek movies. At least that was honest about being AU from the start.
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It was called STD tor a reason
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!trekkies
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There is no real Star Trek canon. Everything (including TOS) exists on this superpositional plane of "sort of happened, but not exactly as depicted"
Lower Decks is Star Trek Family Guy. Its events can be referenced in broad strokes, but it obviously does not occupy the same narrative universe as TNG or whatever
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Wrong the series has an explicit canon.
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Adopted fatty. Fatty, fatty no parents.
Snapshots:
https://cosmicbook.news/star-trek-discovery-erased-canon:
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