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Israel rejects US-backed Lebanon ceasefire plan, hits Beirut again

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/lebanese-prime-minister-believes-ceasefire-between-israel-hezbollah-possible-2024-09-26/

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Unbroken they/them Themepark ride designer @ IDF Redactor0 1d ago #7079215

The escalation against Hezbollah was done absolutely masterfully, better than I or anyone else could have even imagined it would go.

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Redactor0 naori/oppa Unpaid jannie for 10+ years and I would make the same choices if I could do it all over again. Unbroken 1d ago #7079249

Can you put into words what it has achieved?

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Unbroken they/them Themepark ride designer @ IDF Redactor0 1d ago #7079287 Edited 1d ago

Just on the northern front:

Completely dismantled Hezbollah's chain of command.
Removed any ability for Hezbollah soldiers to communicate digitally without surveillance.
Successfully executed the most impressive and complex Intelligence operation / technological attack in the history of warfare (that's known to the public).
destroyed over 50% (estimated) of Hezbollah's rockets
Cucked Iran to the point they haven't retaliated after the most embarrassing targeted assassination in history happened in their capital.

Right now Israel is bombing whatever it wants in Lebanon and Hezbollah is just taking it. Don't take my word for it, look at the facts: How come not a single rocket has hit Haifa?

Now let me ask you: what has Hezbollah or Iran accomplished in this war?

Yea, I'm feeling pretty smug :marseysmug:

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Redactor0 naori/oppa Unpaid jannie for 10+ years and I would make the same choices if I could do it all over again. Unbroken 1d ago #7079342

Completely dismantled Hezbollah's chain of command.

:marseylaugh:

Removed any ability for Hezbollah soldiers to communicate digitally without surveillance.

:marseylaugh: Again, too r-slurred for me to even bother answering.

Successfully executed the most impressive and complex Intelligence operation / technological attack in the history of warfare known to the public.

That was really impressive and difficult. I'm asking about results here. What has that done for Israelis?

destroyed over 50% (estimated) of Hezbollah's rockets

:marseyeyeroll: Nobody even claims this.

Cucked Iran to the point they haven't retaliated after the most embarrassing targeted assassination in history happened in their capital.

Again, what has that done for Israelis? They killed the guy in Hamas whose job was to negotiate with them, which basically ended any chance of the hostages ever being released.

How come not a single rocket has hit Haifa?

They've hardly shot anything at Haifa so far and haven't actually done a real saturation attack yet. Nobody in Israel disputes that they got more missiles than Israel has SAMs so if they fire off everything eventually they're going to start getting through.

Now let me ask you: what has Hezbollah or Iran accomplished this war?

Nothing. Not a single goddarn thing. This has been terribly humiliating and destructive for them. They've had a lot of leaders assassinated and they've proven they're scared to really take on Israel in a full-scale war. Why would you even ask this? Are you r-slurred or something? Why would there be any expectation that they accomplished anything?

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Unbroken they/them Themepark ride designer @ IDF Redactor0 1d ago #7079360

>Nobody in Israel disputes that they got more missiles than Israel has SAMs so if they fire off everything eventually they're going to start getting through.

Wow I wonder why they haven't done that? :marseysmug:

Maybe if Bibi personally crosses the border and makes Nasrallah suck his peepee on live TV they will actually retaliate. :!marseysmug:

In the meantime the the IDF keeps bombing them like never before, significantly reducing their firepower by the day. This literally could not be going better for Israel.

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Redactor0 naori/oppa Unpaid jannie for 10+ years and I would make the same choices if I could do it all over again. Unbroken 1d ago #7079419

Wow I wonder why they haven't done that?

That's one thing I don't understand. Obviously Netanyahu wants to go all the way so I don't get why they're showing so much restraint. Maybe they don't get American politics and think the US will eventually make the Israelis stop. Nasrallah is smart about some things but he doesn't understand America and the Iranian regime definitely doesn't. It's hard for me to imagine what they're thinking when they're being tarded.

Maybe if Bibi personally crosses the border and makes Nasrallah suck his peepee on live TV

You dumb fricking child. :marseyfacepalm: Ariel Sharon tried this. Got out of a helicopter at Castle Beaufort and everyone laughed at how fat he was. Got banished from Israeli politics for 20 years for the Sabra & Shatila massacre because Israelis back then were actually normal human beings who didn't want to kill kids.

In the meantime the the IDF keeps bombing them like never before, significantly reducing their firepower by the day.

[citation needed]

They claim they're blowing up a lot of rockets. It's possible they are but there's no evidence of it and the claims they're making are pretty extreme. Like we're supposed to believe Hezbollah just left half their rockets out in the open to get bombed because... uhhh... you're trash talking the opponent like a 13 year old kid playing basketball. Not a really great basis to plan a war on.

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Unbroken they/them Themepark ride designer @ IDF Redactor0 1d ago #7079461

>I don't get why they're showing so much restraint.

Let me spell it out for you: They're not showing restraint. Their commanders had their peepees blown off, Iran has pretty much tapped out, and the rockets they were going to use have been bombed.

And on top of all that they're scared shitless of what will happen if the war escalates farther.

They're simply getting their butt pounded and that's why they're suddenly begging for a ceasefire.

>rockets out in the open

Some rockets are in civilian buildings that have now been evacuated, some are underground (and can still get bombed). some are exposed because they are ready to fire, or hezbollah thinks their location is unknown. I don't really understand where you expect their rockets to be.

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Redactor0 naori/oppa Unpaid jannie for 10+ years and I would make the same choices if I could do it all over again. Unbroken 1d ago #7079520

Everything you're saying is totally inconsistent with what I've been hearing from non-r-slurred Israelis. One of the main reasons I got interested in this stuff is that you can find people on both sides who are pretty honest about how the war is going, how many casualties there have been (notice that Hezbollah admits they've had way way more guys killed). I don't know who on Onlyfans you're getting your info from but I've been following Naharnet, AFP, The Warzone, Barak Ravid at Axios, AP, Times of Israel.

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Unbroken they/them Themepark ride designer @ IDF Redactor0 1d ago #7079538 Edited 1d ago

Listen, you're the one whose worldview is leaving him confused about why things are going the way they are, so I don't get why you're acting you have omniscient knowledge of the state of the war.

If you have sources, please link them, I'm always open to having my views challenged. Everything I said is either non-controversial or just common sense.

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OdessaAssBandit they/them FEMALE RESPECTOR Redactor0 1d ago #7079902

>They claim they're blowing up a lot of rockets. It's possible they are but there's no evidence of it and the claims they're making are pretty extreme

no evidence except all the secondary explosions going off each strike, of literally a video of a cruise missile about to be launched

:#marseybrainlet:

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Redactor0 naori/oppa Unpaid jannie for 10+ years and I would make the same choices if I could do it all over again. OdessaAssBandit 1d ago #7079915

I'm gonna be saying this a lot:

You r-slurred motherlover. There were a lot of secondary explosions from airstrikes in Vietnam. My dad still had to sleep in his pants every night because rockets were getting shot at him. This is not a war that anyone is going to win. This can go on for years and years and years.

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KissingerFanBoyNoCarp mar/sey Verified Indian, Former and Restored Honourary Jew Redactor0 1d ago #7079990

Yet Israel is receiving a totally tolerable amount of rockets from the North right now. Odd, seems like Vietnam is a bad analogy for Hezbollah getting r*ped.

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OdessaAssBandit they/them FEMALE RESPECTOR Redactor0 1d ago #7079924

How many IDF commanders Hezbollah got?

>That was really impressive and difficult. I'm asking about results here. What has that done for Israelis?

Better to ask what has it done for the IDF. Do I have to explain advantages of significant part of higher ranks of your enemy being communication crippled and less effective until they reconstitute for certain time? Or are you not r-slurred?

>Nobody even claims this.

Yes they do, but only for medium and long range rockets.

>Again, what has that done for Israelis? They killed the guy in Hamas whose job was to negotiate with them, which basically ended any chance of the hostages ever being released

Who gives a shit who is a guy negotiating? Hamas wants to set conditions where they can rebuild. That means Philadelphi corridor, which Israel will never give up on.

>They've hardly shot anything at Haifa so far and haven't actually done a real saturation attack yet. Nobody in Israel disputes that they got more missiles than Israel has SAMs so if they fire off everything eventually they're going to start getting through.

"We were just pretending to be weak and r-slurred so far!"

>Nothing. Not a single goddarn thing. This has been terribly humiliating and destructive for them. They've had a lot of leaders assassinated and they've proven they're scared to really take on Israel in a full-scale war. Why would you even ask this? Are you r-slurred or something? Why would there be any expectation that they accomplished anything?

So you're just a contrarian then? Opinion discarded :marseyrecycling:

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Redactor0 naori/oppa Unpaid jannie for 10+ years and I would make the same choices if I could do it all over again. OdessaAssBandit 1d ago #7079985

You're fundamentally not getting my point because you don't understand what kind of war this is. You can kill lots of the enemy. You can kill ones who are important. You can kill their kids. But if you can't stop them from fighting, you're not accomplishing anything.

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Unbroken they/them Themepark ride designer @ IDF Redactor0 1d ago #7081830

>But if you can't stop them from fighting, you're not accomplishing anything.

This is just wrong, blowing up Hezbollah's rockets is an accomplishment regardless of whether or not they keep fighting.

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terryveisin dev/null OdessaAssBandit 1d ago #7080291

you should read A Savage War of Peace. the palestinians (and to a lesser extent the lebanese) can stomach eating shit for a lot longer than the israelis, and the impressive shock and awe mostly just ensures the next generation of recruits. if the reason for the offensive is to allow 100k israelis to return to the north, the plan is just to keep bombing and hope hezbollah doesn't manage to regroup and alter their tactics? forever?