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r/therewasanattempt To humanize war criminals

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Probably shouldn't have killed all those kids, ey?

What evidence do you have that this guy killed kids? Are you really that simplistic that you think every individual committed atrocities? Heck not even every member of hamas has done that.

He was in the IDF, enough said.

gosh it must be lovely to live in such a simplistic world where you can totally dehumanize someone like that with zero evidence. There were even nazi's that didn't kill people. Heck some nazi soldiers even tried to kill hitler. But go ahead and pass judgement on everyone...i'm sure that will solve this 5000 year old conflict.

I will go ahead and judge them all thanks not that I need your permission. Scum the fricking lot of them and if you're defending them then you are too!

:marseyjanny: jannied. :wojaknofunallowed:


Won't somebody please think of the genociders?!

So... while it's easy to think like that... we need to remember that every member of the IDF is just as radically brainwashed as the members of Hamas, or any other terrorist organization... these are not all evil people. They were also children with hopes and dreams. You are allowed to feel bad for the human beings who are being lied to about their cause, and who are committing war crimes in the name of something that ultimately doesn't exist. It's all super fricked up and very sad. It's a profound waste of life.

No frick you and frick every single person who has ever served in the idf. You are all pieces of shit.


He murdered civilians yet was the victim?

REMEMBER TO VOTE BLUE OR RED SO THEY CAN CONTINUE

Democracy is the biggest scam in human history, either you choose red or blue real ruler is 🐏. Also democracy make deep state easy to replace over night or in some days, this would be bug trouble for them where there's no election or leader changing system like in iran and north Korea.

Biggest problem i see with our republic is that you can buy the people who makes laws

The President is for sale! :marseystocksupdown:


What?you can't sleep after the murder, r*pe, torture??? Imagine how your victims felt...

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Don't fricking both sides a genocide bro. Hamas did not start this.

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It is against the rules of TWAA to support any crimes against humanity, including Apartheid.

Jannies working overtime.


Service is mandatory there, not just a draft , as is many countries. Draft ended in the US in 1973

So was it in nazi germeny

Is that a question, or a statement?

Conscripts are not immune from committing war crimes and crimes against humanity

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So let me get this straight. When the US does this in Vietnam and Middle East, they are honourable veterans. When it's anyone else troops, they are war criminals. Got it.

They're all war criminals. Left-leaning people that criticize the IDF don't praise the US military.

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There is no hipocrisy, you're making up people that don't exist. And you're German. Your country literally supplies 30% of Israel's foreign-sourced weapons. Your government has already chosen a side and dedicated resources towards it, despite your more "pressing matters".

Germans can't keep themselves away from a good genocide :marseyhitler:

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Funnily enough this very topic has it's own wiki page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_support_for_Hamas

The facts are that Israel didn't create Hamas, as Islamist groups always existed in Palestine.

But they did indeed fund and assist Hamas to defeat the PLO and it's child the PA, which were secular orgs with much more international legitimacy than Hamas. Israel obviously doesn't like Hamas, but they hate the idea of a legitimate Palestinian state even more.

They let Qatar give Hamas millions for this very purpose as recently as 10 years ago: https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/

According to various reports, Netanyahu made a similar point at a Likud faction meeting in early 2019, when he was quoted as saying that those who oppose a Palestinian state should support the transfer of funds to Gaza, because maintaining the separation between the Palestinian Authority in the West Bank and Hamas in Gaza would prevent the establishment of a Palestinian state.

Propping up militant groups to destabilize governments you don't like is a standard tactic employed by countries around the world. Israel is no exception.

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Go read the sources wikipedia cites.. and the sources of those sources. Israel gave money to a charity to build mosques in Gaza. The charity later became Hamas.

What is written there in the wikipedia is wrong

>But they did indeed fund and assist Hamas to defeat the PLO and it's child the PA

This is a lie. Israel never funded or armed Hamas, nor was it responsible for it's creation.

also Mendhi Hasan is a snake and intentionally conflates Israel funding "islamic" movements, which his source says. With "Islamist" movements, his words.

and then r-slurred internet commies can say "israel funded hamas" just like that. @screamkwinn

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US intelligence literally admits to it, this is sad cope

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SOURCE????

You are the most intellectually lazy person I've ever agued with online. Transgender spez may have r-slurred views but at least he attempts to defend them. You just parrot talking points you clearly never thought through or looked into, both incapable and uninterested in being persuasive.

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Thanks for finally providing sources.

First I'd like to point out that the only person claiming Israel literally founded hamas is an ex-diplomant known for unhinged views on Israel so into the trash it goes.

Nobody even makes the claim, that you stated previously, that Israel armed Hamas.

You are still r-slurred for making those claims.

Anyways

https://www.upi.com/Business_News/Security-Industry/2002/06/18/Analysis-Hamas-history-tied-to-Israel/UPI-82721024445587/

After looking into it. This is the the original source of the quotes of USA intelligence guys.

While it admit it's convincing it purposefully conflates "hamas" the terrorist organization with the charity it emerged from.

According to ICT papers, Hamas was legally registered in Israel in 1978 by Sheikh Ahmed Yassin, the movement's spiritual leader, as an Islamic Association by the name Al-Mujamma al Islami, which widened its base of supporters and sympathizers by religious propaganda and social work.

Al-Mujamma al Islami was registered as a charity! Hamas didn't exist. This is the author directly lying to you. The "they aided Hamas directly" Tony Cordesman quote also seems to refer to the charity.

One U.S. intelligence source who asked not to be named said that not only was Hamas being funded as a "counterweight" to the PLO, Israeli aid had another purpose: "To help identify and channel towards Israeli agents Hamas members who were dangerous terrorists."

This is after Hamas became Hamas. And I can believe this.

In conclusion:

YOU ARE R-SLURRED IF YOU YOU THINK ISRAEL FOUNDED AND ARMED HAMAS

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BIPOC why would they support an islamist "charity" over literally any other fully knowing they sprouted from mb??

you are r-slurred if you still think Israel would rather have a secular leftoid resistance

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It was "Islamic" not "Islamist" and it was a literal charity. I'm sure they gave to other charities too, they just didn't turn into terror organizations so it wasn't leaked.

>you are r-slurred if you still think Israel would rather have a secular leftoid resistance

right now or back then?

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a Muslim brotherhood charity :niggaplease:

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