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Singapore's Speaker of Parliament was caught in a hot-mic moment using "unparliamentary language" by spouting "fricking populist" after an opposition MP's speech: https://www.todayonline.com/singapore/tan-chuan-jin-apologises-jamus-lim-2208791
And the next week his extra-marital affair with another MP was revealed which led to his resignation: https://rdrama.net/h/singapore/post/188427/marseychingchongitsover-gussy-causes-singapores-speaker-of
Now the leader of the Opposition is sus about the hot-mic leak because of the coincidences
SINGAPORE: Leader of the Opposition Pritam Singh on Wednesday (Aug 2) questioned whether the circumstances around the release of an online video of former Speaker Tan Chuan-Jin's hot-mic incident were suspicious.
A Reddit post on Jul 11 pointed to a video where Mr Tan can be heard muttering "f****** populist" following a speech by Workers' Party Member of Parliament (MP) Jamus Lim during a parliamentary sitting on Apr 17.
After the post was made, Mr Tan apologised to Assoc Prof Lim. About a week later, Mr Tan resigned as an MP and from the People's Action Party over an extramarital affair with a fellow MP.
Wednesday's parliamentary sitting was the first since the hot mic incident came to light, and Leader of the House Indranee Rajah raised a point of order to address the matter.
Mr Tan's remark "was not fully audible on the normal livestream, save for a slight burble of sound at the end; and, as far as I'm aware, it was not audible to members in the chamber at the time the words were uttered", she said.
"However, that burble of sound on the livestream was obviously noticed. It was amplified and circulated some three months later, which then brought the incident to the attention of members and the public."
POLICE INVESTIGATION?
Mr Singh asked if Ms Indranee would refer the video to the police to investigate who had released it.
Ms Indranee said that the police investigate criminal offences, and that this question had not occurred to her as it was not clear that amplifying audio was an offence.
Mr Singh said his question was about the duration of time that it took for the hot-mic video to become public.
"I'm not sure whether the Leader considers there to be something suspicious about that. There is also the matter of what we came to know later, of a long-running affair between (Mr Tan) and another MP," he said.
Ms Indranee reiterated that she was unsure if releasing the video after Mr Tan had already made the comments constituted an offence, but added that individuals can make a police report if they consider it to be so.
Mr Singh then said that he was referring to "the total circumstances of the timing of this video coming out", and added that the police sometimes investigate before concluding whether there was an offence.
"I'm just asking in the case of the personality involved, the Speaker of the House, a very senior member of government, whether there would be some thought placed on the circumstances of how that video came to be circulated in public.
"I wasn't speaking of a specific disclosure of an offence, but the total circumstances -- that query whether there could be something more to it."
Mr Singh added that some individuals had come to him with questions of whether it was a "false flag" incident, referring to an act that is designed to pin blame or responsibility on another party.
Ms Indranee replied: "I think Mr Singh is aware that one only refers matters for investigation by the police if an offence has been committed. The police do not generally investigate things which are not offences.
"At the moment, it is not apparent to me that there is an offence. But should ... something further come up which indicates that an offence may have occurred, then the matter can be reconsidered at that time."
FORMAL APOLOGY BY TAN CHUAN-JIN
Before the exchange with Mr Singh, Ms Indranee read out a formal apology by Mr Tan to the House, in which he "unreservedly" withdrew the comment directed at Assoc Prof Lim.
Ms Indranee said that the usual approach to unparliamentary language is to require a withdrawal and an apology, and that Mr Tan had agreed to this after she communicated to him that it was necessary.
She also highlighted two precedents involving the use of unparliamentary language in the House.
After a sitting in November 1995, a complaint was made against then MP Ling How Doong for "(describing) the speech made by another MP in vulgar terms, (calling) the other MP a word questioning the legitimacy of his birth, and (referring) to him using an anatomical term".
The matter was closed when Mr Ling, at a subsequent sitting, withdrew his remarks and apologised to the House.
At another sitting in March 2005, Nominated MP Associate Professor Ong Soh Khim uttered unparliamentary words that were not captured in the official record. Several complaints were made against her.
The matter similarly ended when Assoc Prof Ong apologised to the House for using unparliamentary language.
Turning back to the present incident, Mr Indranee said that Mr Tan had apologised three times -- to the public, to Assoc Prof Lim and to parliament.
"As such, my view is that the specific matter of Mr Tan's use of unparliamentary language does not require any further action, and this regrettable incident can be brought to a close," she said.
SYLVIA LIM, LEONG MUN WAI QUESTION INDRANEE
MP Sylvia Lim (WP-Aljunied) asked Ms Indranee to clarify whether she was exercising any authority as Leader of the House when she communicated to Mr Tan that an apology was necessary.
"The Speaker is the master of the chamber, he has the power to punish us. But it's a question mark as to who has the power to punish him if there is any unparliamentary conduct," she said.
Ms Lim said that from her research into other jurisdictions, a motion of regret filed by backbencher MPs was the usual practice.
Ms Indranee replied that she was not exercising any authority over Mr Tan, and had only indicated her view to him as Leader of the House.
She added that she did not have the power to conclude the matter, and that if any MP had another view, it was up to them to pursue it.
Non-Constituency MP Leong Mun Wai asked why the Leader of the House did not think it necessary for Foreign Minister Vivian Balakrishnan to formally apologise when he was caught making comments about Mr Leong on a hot mic.
Mr Leong was referring to a previous incident in which a voice was heard saying "he's illiterate" and "seriously, how did he get into (Raffles Institution)? Must have been a lousy school" during a livestream of a parliamentary sitting.
Dr Balakrishnan later apologised to the Progress Singapore Party politician in a call.
Ms Indranee said that typically, the Speaker rules on such matters and it is for the person who has the right to complain -- in that case, Mr Leong -- to raise the issue.
"I have raised it here simply because it is the Speaker who had uttered the words, and other members can raise a complaint if they wish," she said.
"But I felt that it was appropriate that as Leader, I should address it. And of course, he's no longer here in parliament to deal with it, so somebody has to raise it."
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these neighbors are lightweight LMAO they should come to USA if they want some REAL political "coincidence" action
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I think everyone knows how "coincidental" the whole thing really is because of how a 2-3 year old video of two opposition members holding hands dropped on the same day the news of the incumbent party's members having an extramarital affair but over here it's really best to just STFU
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idk who it was but someone summarized singapore's politics as "the elections are free, but not fair"
is that accurate
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i dont want rdrama to be hit with a notice
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protection_from_Online_Falsehoods_and_Manipulation_Act_2019
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I'll take that as a yes
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Or just be an inkwell. If you keep firing s*x havers for being degenerate(typical s*x haver behaviour) the inkwells will be the only ones left.
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have you seen our birth rates?
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And yet your politicians behave like American college students SMH most of the tax base at least there are inkwells where is our representation?
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I have information that will lead to the arrest of Hi-
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Why is populism bad
I don't understand this
They've somehow managed to elevate it to scare word status that whispers “fascism” behind it
Populism is literally the heart of democracy, which, for some reason, everyone pretends to love and cherish
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I have to read War and peace to understand this? In the the Philippines you just watch it for 30 seconds and decide if the guy was putting enough energy into it.
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What are they soying out about? Barely anyone lives through a CSPAN video, but it's easy to believe that someone was listening, heard something barely audible, and was recording it (or downloaded it) to replay and figure it out.
And the guy is a fricking populist.
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lol i was writing a long reply but i decided against it in the end but i guess there were many coincidences so people tend to get
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Silenced by government again?
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the speaker position here is not glamorous like in the USA and kinda speculated to be one where your political career goes to die
hence the combination of:
the hot-mic incident being from a few months ago
the reveal of his extra-marital affair that was known since 2020 in the week following the reveal of that hot-mic incident
the reveal of another extra-marital affair of opposition party members from 2020 too on the same day lol
so with all that against the backdrop that is a cabinet minister of ours being arrested and investigated for corruption i guess people started to speculate if the affairs + hot-mic nonsense served as a distraction from that since the guy's career was already going no where
it's all speculation pls no arrest me
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So being a long time lurker on /r/SingaporeRaw I can for sure say the reddit account that exposed the hot mic incident was /u/sentosa_cove_42069
But he is a kinda controversial guy in sgraw and I'm not entirely sure of his history in there
Andy Wong Ming Jun is the guy behind it
https://old.reddit.com/r/SingaporeRaw/comments/14xmwqe/sentosa_cove_42069_is_also_known_as_andy_wong/
https://old.reddit.com/r/SingaporeRaw/comments/xl805z/is_it_true_infamous_pervert_andy_wong_ming_jun/
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Snapshots:
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https://www.todayonline.com/singapore/tan-chuan-jin-apologises-jamus-lim-2208791:
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