Cloudflare CEO Matthew Prince stated an imminent threat to human life was why he revoked our service.
He elaborates in his post, and claims violent rhetoric had ramped up.
This seems to be based off one of two things:
1. A post made on 4chan's /pol/ with a picture taken outside an apartment in Ireland which references the forum.
2. A series of posts made by one user, @Washizu Iwao (formerly @Serotonin).
This means that a community with 16,000 daily sign-ins is being punished for the behavior of a single user, or a person not even on our website.
The post by @Washizu Iwao was posted at 9:42pm EU time. It was reported seven times. After 32 minutes it was deleted by @Ride, one of our admins. The user was also banned.
Our website makes no money. All of our moderators are volunteers. It took Facebook (with a 24/7 staff of paid moderators) 29 minutes to remove the Christchurch shooting from Facebook Live.
This user joined in 2020, but the account remained inactive until July, 2022.
He made a single, low-effort post in an on-topic board before going dormant again until August 21st. Every subsequent post was in the Keffals thread.
This person is not an active member of the community. This appears to be a sleeper account someone had gotten access to in July, and kept on hand to use like this.
On August 31st, Matthew Prince released a strong statement defending his role as a service provider and not a regulatory body. 3 days later, something scared him. I don't know what it was, but it achieved the desired result. In his explanation post, which reads as rushed and irrational, he tries to mitigate the whiplash between the two opposing statements by saying we are the worst site he has ever seen - because one post (which was already deleted by the time he pulled the plug) made a violent threat.
The precedent has been set. At Cloudflare, with enough pressure, a single post by a strange account can be made to threaten a 9-year-old community and the tens of thousands of people who have used it every day for years. There has never been a violent incident in our history, which cannot be said for many other sites still on Cloudflare. This narrative feels like a lie spun up to save face.
Even now, I have received zero communication from Cloudflare, U.S. Law Enforcement, the Irish Garda, or the Royal Ulster Constabulary regarding anything related to #DropKiwiFarms or its members.
This concerns me and should deeply concern everyone about the state of the Internet.
I'll have more to say later. I've not yet moved my domains from Cloudflare, because a part of me thinks that Matthew will recognize this as an err in judgement. The decision is simply too asinine for me to accept as reality.
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Quit nooticing things goyim
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Tbf, the only reason leftoids and trains are able to do this is because rightoids are both too r-slurred to do it themselves, and have unironically accepted the idea of “fair play”. That does not work; not in politics nor cultural power.
If rightoids even wake up en masse and replace the defensive no with an aggressive attack, the situations would be reversed.
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The problem is that rightoids ignoring fair play is how you get unironic fascism
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Check my pronouns. ;)
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leftoids will get you there too, just as fast
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Leftoids give you Brave New World, rightoids give you 1984.
I'm so glad to be on this train
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Brave new world is a cope, lefties will give you 1984 with normalized child s*x
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It is so phenomenally r-slurred to believe that the leader figure in that story embodies leftist principles.
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The real leftist dystopia is indefinable because there is no such thing as leftist principles.
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That's a problem?
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Posting here would be punishable by death, which is a good thing, so no
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I guess the problem is that people think of the chuds and autists of the net as the "right". Meanwhile the actual people with power in the right wing got so many tax cuts the state is indebted by over a 100% of the total GDP with new debt ceilings having to be approved every few years, they packed the courts, gerrymandered voting districts to heck and back and banned abortion against the opinion of the majority of the country.
Ultimately Kiwifarms are a bunch of losers, and I say that while sincerely empathizing with their goal of making the lives of mentally ill freakshows as miserable as possible. And trains are playing this game to feel a sense of power and victory over the "enemy" that they normally would never get in real life. I guess when you've been bullied for long enough that's the sort of power dynamic you're used to.
My point is that we shouldn't really lose perspective and confuse petty power struggles over the internet with actual politics, I guess. Nothing any of these people do will ever matter in real life. That's what makes it fun
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The thing is, those irl conservatives conserve jack shit in 99% of cases. Besides the wallet of the rich that is. The abortion decision came as a shock to everyone. If the GOP was truly representative of the average rightoid, think about what the usa would look like
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Of course it isn't. The GOP represents its own interests, that's obvious. In the end the ones who benefitted the most from globalization and the breakdown of social customs and immigration laws are the party and business elites. That's why asking Trump to bring back coal to the midwest is kind of like the turkey asking nicely if you would get it out of the oven on Thanksgiving. But your average redneck is simply too stupid to get this. They see team red and team blue, only team blue is calling them a racist ethnic cleanser while team red is talking about Jesus and NASCAR.
Just the same as the Democrats, to be honest. They'll never forgive student debt or implement UBI or move towards socialism in any of the ways their Twitter base would love them to do. Their last big attempt at that was Sanders, and they didn't even bother to hide how they sabotaged him from inside his own party. Normally your average leftist is able to understand this, but the pressure of identity politics and the fear of the orange man ends up meaning he still ends up voting for the Democrats either way, and so he's just as powerless as the rightoid, even if he's not as deluded.
They both are kind of exactly the same in all of the ways that matter. As long as the material incentives for the ruling class remain the same it doesn't really matter what people vote, the long term results are the same. Well, I guess if Hillary got her turn now foids shouldn't need to cross state lines to get an abortion, big whoop. The overton window is a point with some autists screeching impotently at the fringes.
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Nice to see another person get this.
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It's just r-slurred burger system strikes again. Also, someone's to blame for shaming the poignant term "alt-right" into the cringeland.
Socio-eco-political landscape is a genderfluid non-binary queen, and our overregulated language just fails to portray xer in all xer glory. Long story short, the "right" can mean 20 different things that appear to be historically related mostly just by accident.
Fukuyama nonsense.
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Yup. It's just a coalition of forces that exist as a reaction to the left. Which is why it's so ironic the left has infinitely more infighting than the right even though a capitalist and a religious nut have way less to do with each other than a couple of anarchists that belong to slightly different groups. The narcissism of small differences is a b-word, I guess.
Come on, really? My point was that weirdos and sexual deviants on the internet are so far removed from the levers of power it doesn't matter what they do or don't do. I can recognize a stupid Twitter nerd bitchslap fight for what it is, that doesn't mean I believe nothing will ever change. It will, material conditions are ever changing. But it certainly won't happen because of these people. They are the (unfortunate) consequence of the historical moment we're in right now, not its cause. The behavioral sink as described by Calhoun.
Wait a sec I just realized I'm seriousposting. Let me add some Marseys
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Rightoids are more likely to want to be left alone. leftoids come up with insane cult shit like "silence is violence."
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Ok, but how can I get neither group of r-slurs to do it?
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You can’t. At least, not really. This is something intrinsic to leftism (not to be confused with progressivism) as leftist doctrine calls for cementing power by any means.
Rightoids, meanwhile, can be kept at bay as long as everything moves slowly, moves okayy, and the leftoids (and progressives) are kept silent.
If you want both groups to be quiet, you’d need an auth liberal state (ex: Peron).
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yup. sad.
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How do you think that this tactic will evolve if their mouthpieces begin to be actually targeted for violence?
Seeing how often people in major cities die for no reason and nothing comes of it, it seems almost too easy.
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