Cloudflare CEO Matthew Prince stated an imminent threat to human life was why he revoked our service.
He elaborates in his post, and claims violent rhetoric had ramped up.
This seems to be based off one of two things:
1. A post made on 4chan's /pol/ with a picture taken outside an apartment in Ireland which references the forum.
2. A series of posts made by one user, @Washizu Iwao (formerly @Serotonin).
This means that a community with 16,000 daily sign-ins is being punished for the behavior of a single user, or a person not even on our website.
The post by @Washizu Iwao was posted at 9:42pm EU time. It was reported seven times. After 32 minutes it was deleted by @Ride, one of our admins. The user was also banned.
Our website makes no money. All of our moderators are volunteers. It took Facebook (with a 24/7 staff of paid moderators) 29 minutes to remove the Christchurch shooting from Facebook Live.
This user joined in 2020, but the account remained inactive until July, 2022.
He made a single, low-effort post in an on-topic board before going dormant again until August 21st. Every subsequent post was in the Keffals thread.
This person is not an active member of the community. This appears to be a sleeper account someone had gotten access to in July, and kept on hand to use like this.
On August 31st, Matthew Prince released a strong statement defending his role as a service provider and not a regulatory body. 3 days later, something scared him. I don't know what it was, but it achieved the desired result. In his explanation post, which reads as rushed and irrational, he tries to mitigate the whiplash between the two opposing statements by saying we are the worst site he has ever seen - because one post (which was already deleted by the time he pulled the plug) made a violent threat.
The precedent has been set. At Cloudflare, with enough pressure, a single post by a strange account can be made to threaten a 9-year-old community and the tens of thousands of people who have used it every day for years. There has never been a violent incident in our history, which cannot be said for many other sites still on Cloudflare. This narrative feels like a lie spun up to save face.
Even now, I have received zero communication from Cloudflare, U.S. Law Enforcement, the Irish Garda, or the Royal Ulster Constabulary regarding anything related to #DropKiwiFarms or its members.
This concerns me and should deeply concern everyone about the state of the Internet.
I'll have more to say later. I've not yet moved my domains from Cloudflare, because a part of me thinks that Matthew will recognize this as an err in judgement. The decision is simply too asinine for me to accept as reality.
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Suprised this comment hasn't been greyed out yet, but there are more than a few free-speechers and technolibertarians on slashdot and hackernews.
[1] https://unherd.com/thepost/why-taylor-lorenz-can-dox-whoever...
[2] https://nypost.com/2021/08/16/ny-times-reporter-taylor-loren...
[3] https://thenewstack.io/cloudflares-kiwi-farms-support-may-so...
[4] https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/ny-cloudflare-pres...
[5] https://www.protocol.com/newsletters/protocol-enterprise/clo...
Taylor Lorenz going for the drama field goal kick
Cancel culture isn't real, and if it was it's a good thing chud
Hackercels are really spun up, I'm enjoying skimming through this. Great job on the post too
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but also woman means anything i want it to mean!
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who, the 36 IRA bombers? are they real?
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Sorry King, should have put a /s there
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deadname > murder, chud
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This thread is proof that dramatards have no principles and only root for whoever's winning.
Before KF got banned everypony was telling keffals too rope, now that Keffals is on top it's KF getting shit on.
RDrama's radical centrism is just unconditionally rooting for whoever is stronger at any given moment.
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You just now realised that?
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It's more that I've been in desperate denial of you're amorality for months.
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We've literally started out that way. Back on reddit.
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why are you looking for morality on a website of r-slurs LARPing as catty homosexuals, jesus christ the autism in this place is off the charts
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Because
@KARABOGA is legitimately delusional.
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Lmao newstrag, dramatards have always been radical centrists
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Imagine caring about things
couldn't be me
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*your
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Correct, we follow the drama wherever it goes.
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That's what neoliberalism is.
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/r/neoliberal is owned by the Progressive Policy Institute
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Progressivism, as an ideology, is nothing but mercurial worship of perepetual victory.
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There are like 4 of you
chasers spamming on every kf thread.
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Well yeah, having principles is for wingcucks. This is a drama site chud
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Like weren't people actually mad about KF potentially going down for more reasons that their own amusement from KF?
Lotta people were crying about freezepeech and protecting the free internet and don't seem too give a frick now that they've realized they can bully spergs on the internet without needing either of those things.
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Yes, but I don't come to rdrama to express those views. I come here to be a degenerate and gawk at drama.
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Yeah tbh
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rdrama is nihilistic for sure, but it makes me laugh sometimes.
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this but ironically
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To be fair, I've been saying KF deserved it for awhile now lol
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As a TRUE Radical Centrist, I can always say I supported neither side the entire time.
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Weak, RADICAL centrists support the extremes of both sides simultaneously.
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Oh make no mistake, keffals should still rope
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Ok, and?
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I'm for KF in this out of principle. I still think it's fun to laugh at seething nerds because I'm not a wingcuck with no sense of humor.
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And that's a good thing
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Still hoping for the rope.
Degenerate libertarians don't deserve to be protected
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Lmao weakstrag
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Not me guv.
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we root for 👏 BOTH 👏 SIDES 👏 if one side wins that is not drama
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Might makes right is the oldest and most consistent principle around.
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all KF had to do was comply.
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What's funny is that trains have this power but will continually cry that they are oppressed. lol
Also, I like how no news stations mention the Catboy Ranch or the bathtub HRT to 13 year old boys. I hate journ*lists so much. They paint it as if keffals is an innocent person just on the internet and they just randomly targeted a train for no reason.
Krayon sexually assaulted his sister.
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Keffals (a notorious doxxer) being defended in the WaPo by Taylor Lorenz (a notorious doxxer), both complaining loudly about people who dox.
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Anything short of unyielding subservience is trans genocide you chud.
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fetishsacred religious doctrine, but a bunch of literally who internet neurodivergents archive public information of you grooming children and often fricking animalsJump in the discussion.
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Never forget the train who said that black people who aren't an ally haven't experienced enough racism. Totally not a racist though.
Krayon sexually assaulted his sister.
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Well they already think they share the same struggle considering how they already view themselves as the Jackie Robinsons and the Little Rock Nines of the world
https://www.undelete.pullpush.io/r/politics/comments/thylyt/texas_ag_misgenders_assistant_health_secretary/
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mentioning that dudes degeneracy would be in bad faith. It really is amazing the parts of stories they just happen to leave out
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Power likes to hide, it's the most important way power protects itself from usurpers.
e.g. Who has how much power in the US government? Only a few people really know.
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Journ*lists are so shamelessly dishonest holy shit. I guess the trope of trust fund kids. i.e. journ*lists being soulless ghouls really is true.
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At some point, one of these trains
will 
be a registered s*x offender and The Washington Post 
will 
write an article praising their latest crusade without ever mentioning it. 2020s journ*lism for you baby. 
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"Trains have all this power but still cry that they're oppressed"
This just convinced me that trans women are women
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choo choo motherlover
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Darn so it might actually have been a false flag. Keffals outplayed kiwifarms
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I'm no sperg most of the time but at the very least the mtg one was a very obvious false flag (the 4chan one looks very suspicious, as does the kf one).
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"Hello, please swat this famous politician, and my name is I HATE BIPOC from the notorious hate site KIWIFARMS"
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We'll see what retribution kiwicels are capable of
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Retribution, depicted:
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They're gonna give him the Dsp treatment of never not obsessing, so Keff is stuck with KF for the rest of his life regardless
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One of my personal life goals is gonna be to whip up a mob to get something I don’t like shut down, I bet it feels super satisfying
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There are no bad tactics, just bad targets
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This but unironically.
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You should convince the train brigade that Stephen King is a terf.
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He’s a chomo
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I got dramatards to pay for my unblockable so I could harass belial, it ended up feeling more like a responsibility than a victory. Your story may be different
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Quit nooticing things goyim
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Tbf, the only reason leftoids and trains are able to do this is because rightoids are both too r-slurred to do it themselves, and have unironically accepted the idea of “fair play”. That does not work; not in politics nor cultural power.
If rightoids even wake up en masse and replace the defensive no with an aggressive attack, the situations would be reversed.
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The problem is that rightoids ignoring fair play is how you get unironic fascism
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Check my pronouns. ;)
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leftoids will get you there too, just as fast
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Leftoids give you Brave New World, rightoids give you 1984.
I'm so glad to be on this train
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Brave new world is a cope, lefties will give you 1984 with normalized child s*x
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It is so phenomenally r-slurred to believe that the leader figure in that story embodies leftist principles.
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The real leftist dystopia is indefinable because there is no such thing as leftist principles.
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That's a problem?
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Posting here would be punishable by death, which is a good thing, so no
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I guess the problem is that people think of the chuds and neurodivergents of the net as the "right". Meanwhile the actual people with power in the right wing got so many tax cuts the state is indebted by over a 100% of the total GDP with new debt ceilings having to be approved every few years, they packed the courts, gerrymandered voting districts to heck and back and banned abortion against the opinion of the majority of the country.
Ultimately Kiwifarms are a bunch of losers, and I say that while sincerely empathizing with their goal of making the lives of mentally ill freakshows as miserable as possible. And trains are playing this game to feel a sense of power and victory over the "enemy" that they normally would never get in real life. I guess when you've been bullied for long enough that's the sort of power dynamic you're used to.
My point is that we shouldn't really lose perspective and confuse petty power struggles over the internet with actual politics, I guess. Nothing any of these people do will ever matter in real life. That's what makes it fun
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The thing is, those irl conservatives conserve jack shit in 99% of cases. Besides the wallet of the rich that is. The abortion decision came as a shock to everyone. If the GOP was truly representative of the average rightoid, think about what the usa would look like
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Of course it isn't. The GOP represents its own interests, that's obvious. In the end the ones who benefitted the most from globalization and the breakdown of social customs and immigration laws are the party and business elites. That's why asking Trump to bring back coal to the midwest is kind of like the turkey asking nicely if you would get it out of the oven on Thanksgiving. But your average redneck is simply too stupid to get this. They see team red and team blue, only team blue is calling them a racist ethnic cleanser while team red is talking about Jesus and NASCAR.
Just the same as the Democrats, to be honest. They'll never forgive student debt or implement UBI or move towards socialism in any of the ways their Twitter base would love them to do. Their last big attempt at that was Sanders, and they didn't even bother to hide how they sabotaged him from inside his own party. Normally your average leftist is able to understand this, but the pressure of identity politics and the fear of the orange man ends up meaning he still ends up voting for the Democrats either way, and so he's just as powerless as the rightoid, even if he's not as deluded.
They both are kind of exactly the same in all of the ways that matter. As long as the material incentives for the ruling class remain the same it doesn't really matter what people vote, the long term results are the same. Well, I guess if Hillary got her turn now foids shouldn't need to cross state lines to get an abortion, big whoop. The overton window is a point with some neurodivergents screeching impotently at the fringes.
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Nice to see another person get this.
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It's just r-slurred burger system strikes again. Also, someone's to blame for shaming the poignant term "alt-right" into the cringeland.
Socio-eco-political landscape is a genderfluid non-binary queen, and our overregulated language just fails to portray xer in all xer glory. Long story short, the "right" can mean 20 different things that appear to be historically related mostly just by accident.
Fukuyama nonsense.
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Yup. It's just a coalition of forces that exist as a reaction to the left. Which is why it's so ironic the left has infinitely more infighting than the right even though a capitalist and a religious nut have way less to do with each other than a couple of anarchists that belong to slightly different groups. The narcissism of small differences is a b-word, I guess.
Come on, really? My point was that weirdos and sexual deviants on the internet are so far removed from the levers of power it doesn't matter what they do or don't do. I can recognize a stupid Twitter nerd bitchslap fight for what it is, that doesn't mean I believe nothing will ever change. It will, material conditions are ever changing. But it certainly won't happen because of these people. They are the (unfortunate) consequence of the historical moment we're in right now, not its cause. The behavioral sink as described by Calhoun.
Wait a sec I just realized I'm seriousposting. Let me add some Marseys
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Rightoids are more likely to want to be left alone. leftoids come up with insane cult shit like "silence is violence."
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Ok, but how can I get neither group of r-slurs to do it?
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You can’t. At least, not really. This is something intrinsic to leftism (not to be confused with progressivism) as leftist doctrine calls for cementing power by any means.
Rightoids, meanwhile, can be kept at bay as long as everything moves slowly, moves okayy, and the leftoids (and progressives) are kept silent.
If you want both groups to be quiet, you’d need an auth liberal state (ex: Peron).
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yup. sad.
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How do you think that this tactic will evolve if their mouthpieces begin to be actually targeted for violence?
Seeing how often people in major cities die for no reason and nothing comes of it, it seems almost too easy.
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You just know they're all turboneurodivergents when they say shit like "but that'd mean they lied and lying is unlawful".
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honestly disappointing
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They used to do this on incel subreddits. Create new accounts, post some outrage shit and then never post again. Its so fricking obvious.
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The "threat" bullshit is an incredibly weak excuse for going back on what he had just announced. There were definitely some phone calls made in those 48 hours and some kind of coercion was involved.
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HACKERLIGHT IS BARDFINN
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HACKERLIGHT IS BARDFINN
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ctrl-f "bad faith"
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🚨Bard bot alert!🚨
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Glad to see the ycombos are actually mostly defending KF on this. KF may be a nuch of tards, but it's not right what CF did.
EDIT: Haha,
@X (formerly chiobu) upmarseyd. You're an exception to my tard comment. Or maybe, you're simply my favourite KF tard!
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I've been here a year so I'm definitely a tard
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Double tarded then, but based. In terms of basedness for the 'tist sites, it goes Reddit < Slashdot < Ycombinator < rDrama < kiwifarms.
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Maybe don't make a doxxing website? Seems to work for all other Cloudfare clients.
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that's not really what this episode is about
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None of the not-insane Cloudfare client sites have been banned, just sayin.
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Have you learned nothing from reddit's history wrt censorship? It started with /r/jailbait. the easiest target, because everyone is against it.
And the first time when activists tried to get it banned, the owners of reddit (all of them!) responded with "Nope, we are committed to free speech absolutism, we'll only ever ban content that is actually illegal in the US."
Well, a year (and a lot of negative PR) later, they did delete it, with the same kind of speech as cloudflare gave "this does not set a precedent. we only make an exception this one time, but we will never ban any other legal content."
From then on more and more subs (always the the one whose existence was the hardest to defend) were banned. often with the same speech: "but only this last time, we won't ever ban any other ind of content").
Now we're at the point where reddit bans lesbian subreddits if their users don't want to get peepeeed down by heckin valid barbie wands.
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You can't be seriously making a case against my statement via a straight-up pedophilia subreddit. This is beyond parody.
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Oh, I didn't know you were r-slurred.
Learn to read.
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You are the one here defending a libertarian subbreddit, so.
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And, in your tard opinion, where did I do that?
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More like Null shield have lawyermaxxed years ago but that works have required foresight and a stable income
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If he had run a tenbux site like lowtax:
lower server costs
more disposable income
less attention
He's r-slurred for doing it for free.
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He'd still run into problems with payment processors though. I'm not knowledgeable enough on how to circumvent that however.
Wild that after all these years, Lowtax's Funhouse still had the best idea for abusing it's userbase.
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Tencoins, then. If anything it's gotten easier since SA
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You're insulting me because:
You cannot back up your claims
You logically cannot process that I'm right and you're wrong.
You're of limited intelligence
And since everything in your life seems to be done for you, you cannot make your own cogent argument.
Go ahead and call me more names and tell me I'm a prime suspect for your reeducation camps. Those will only exist in your imagination as there will be no revolution because you have no revolutionaries and almost none of the weapons, certainly very little battlefield experience. How do you imagine you'd win a revolution against me?
Snapshots:
https://web.archive.org/https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32711475
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