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Kiwi Farms response to CloudFlare | Hacker News :!marseysoycry:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32711475

Cloudflare CEO Matthew Prince stated an imminent threat to human life was why he revoked our service.

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He elaborates in his post, and claims violent rhetoric had ramped up.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1684136187983825.webp

This seems to be based off one of two things:

1. A post made on 4chan's /pol/ with a picture taken outside an apartment in Ireland which references the forum.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16841361883418362.webp https://i.rdrama.net/images/16841361887021022.webp

2. A series of posts made by one user, @Washizu Iwao (formerly @Serotonin).

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16841361890932152.webp

This means that a community with 16,000 daily sign-ins is being punished for the behavior of a single user, or a person not even on our website.

The post by @Washizu Iwao was posted at 9:42pm EU time. It was reported seven times. After 32 minutes it was deleted by @Ride, one of our admins. The user was also banned.

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Our website makes no money. All of our moderators are volunteers. It took Facebook (with a 24/7 staff of paid moderators) 29 minutes to remove the Christchurch shooting from Facebook Live.

This user joined in 2020, but the account remained inactive until July, 2022.

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He made a single, low-effort post in an on-topic board before going dormant again until August 21st. Every subsequent post was in the Keffals thread.

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16841361901684802.webp

This person is not an active member of the community. This appears to be a sleeper account someone had gotten access to in July, and kept on hand to use like this.

On August 31st, Matthew Prince released a strong statement defending his role as a service provider and not a regulatory body. 3 days later, something scared him. I don't know what it was, but it achieved the desired result. In his explanation post, which reads as rushed and irrational, he tries to mitigate the whiplash between the two opposing statements by saying we are the worst site he has ever seen - because one post (which was already deleted by the time he pulled the plug) made a violent threat.

The precedent has been set. At Cloudflare, with enough pressure, a single post by a strange account can be made to threaten a 9-year-old community and the tens of thousands of people who have used it every day for years. There has never been a violent incident in our history, which cannot be said for many other sites still on Cloudflare. This narrative feels like a lie spun up to save face.

Even now, I have received zero communication from Cloudflare, U.S. Law Enforcement, the Irish Garda, or the Royal Ulster Constabulary regarding anything related to #DropKiwiFarms or its members.

This concerns me and should deeply concern everyone about the state of the Internet.

I'll have more to say later. I've not yet moved my domains from Cloudflare, because a part of me thinks that Matthew will recognize this as an err in judgement. The decision is simply too asinine for me to accept as reality.

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There has never been a violent incident in our history, which cannot be said for many other sites still on Cloudflare.

This concerns me and should deeply concern everyone about the state of the Internet.

Maybe don't make a doxxing website? Seems to work for all other Cloudfare clients.

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More like Null shield have lawyermaxxed years ago but that works have required foresight and a stable income

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If he had run a tenbux site like lowtax:

  • lower server costs

  • more disposable income

  • less attention

He's r-slurred for doing it for free.

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He'd still run into problems with payment processors though. I'm not knowledgeable enough on how to circumvent that however.

Wild that after all these years, Lowtax's Funhouse still had the best idea for abusing it's userbase.

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Tencoins, then. If anything it's gotten easier since SA

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that's not really what this episode is about

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None of the not-insane Cloudfare client sites have been banned, just sayin.

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Have you learned nothing from reddit's history wrt censorship? It started with /r/jailbait. the easiest target, because everyone is against it.

And the first time when activists tried to get it banned, the owners of reddit (all of them!) responded with "Nope, we are committed to free speech absolutism, we'll only ever ban content that is actually illegal in the US."

Well, a year (and a lot of negative PR) later, they did delete it, with the same kind of speech as cloudflare gave "this does not set a precedent. we only make an exception this one time, but we will never ban any other legal content."

From then on more and more subs (always the the one whose existence was the hardest to defend) were banned. often with the same speech: "but only this last time, we won't ever ban any other ind of content").

Now we're at the point where reddit bans lesbian subreddits if their users don't want to get peepeeed down by heckin valid barbie wands.

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You can't be seriously making a case against my statement via a straight-up pedophilia subreddit. This is beyond parody.

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Oh, I didn't know you were r-slurred.

Learn to read.

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You are the one here defending a p-dophile subbreddit, so.

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And, in your tard opinion, where did I do that?

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