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certainly in terms of girls seeing programming as “boy’s stuff” – by a very early age. Which means that, whatever we do, the target of our efforts needs to be girls under the age of 7 so we can maybe change their minds before Polly Pocket changes their minds for us.

That's the problem of these programs. They start far to late offering boni but are not able to build up any intrinsic motivation. It's a passion and I like the software craftsmanship perspective. You have to enlighten this fire at early age but it's shut down by girls and boys things.

god I hate these kind of twinks. I have tons of coworkers who didn't start programming at all until they got to college/university. These neurodivergents think that because they got started with it before age 10, therefore everybody must, but they don't realize they're a tiny minority of software developers and frankly don't really matter.

The gender gap in elementary school teachers is just as large, if not larger, than the gap in software developers. But imagine if someone was like "oh we need to indoctrinate all these 7-year-old boys to be teachers to correct this". They'd be laughed out of the room.

For anyone who isn't in software development, don't believe any of this shit. Women are treated as queens. They get more money for the same skills. They get more leniency. There are entire career fairs that large, well-paying companies recruit from that are women-only, no men allowed. There are special programs at companies like Google just for their women engineers. They get preferential treatment at every stage. At larger firms they even have positions that are explicitly earmarked to be filled by only women, never men. (I hope the conservative SCOTUS gets around to slapping them for this kind of sexism but :marseysal:.) Put bluntly, if you're a woman and can't make it in software development, you're literally r-slurred.

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Don't forget that they're injecting easy male attention into their veins all through their CompSci degree. You go into a classroom and there's always three to four guys hanging around an attention seeking foid, dumbass socially awkward neurodivergents are like that. I think 20% of them are there just for that reason (they soon drop out). Another 30% are there because le hacker privacy invading superhero man is their erotic fantasy and they get turned on at the idea of men holding power through tech, always going on about anonymoose /b/ shit seven years after it happened and watching too much Mr Robot.

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There's certainly some that revel in the attention. One of my classmates at university told me she purposefully wore really feminine stuff (think: lots of pink and shit) for the purpose of standing out.

I think they're a minority of women in software, though. Most people want to get attention from attractive people, not from neurodivergents.

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They're a minority in software because they all get filtered out during the first two years. These attention seeking girls don't so much care where the attention is coming from, just as long as they can bask in it for the purposes of prattling on about how unique they are.

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They just end up working at large company like Twitter or Spotify that can afford giving them a window seat. Just look at those day in life vis on YouTube.

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Because studies show diverse teams do better

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I am not going to spoon feed you. Just do a quick search.

Alternatively don't believe me and continue to think teams made up of uniformly similar men are better.

I really don't care what you think.

It's not my job to educate you, sweaty.

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>diverse teams do better

>the most advanced computer tech all comes from ricecels in Taiwan and Korea

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i hope trains start taking up all the diversity positions meant for women

they already have a pretty big advantage with their tism

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>have train coworker

>acts more feminine than most women

>can hold a conversation

>doesn’t sperg if you say something wrong

>like talking to a QT girl but not unbearable

>enjoys when I jokingly flirt

>am I even joking?

Biofoids beware, if you ever wonder where all the good men are, check your local QT tranners DMs

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>doesn’t sperg if you say something wrong

You had me until here.

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Bruv these are the programmer trains. Actually educated and capable of critical reasoning and shit. The reddit tier ones don't hold jobs.

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Programmer trains are the most insufferable narcissists, all the dudebro arrogance foids project onto moids applies 100% to tech :!marseytrain:s. Some of the worst people to interact with on a personal level.

Or maybe I've just had a bad run with them, idk, it's anecdotal my dude.

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noted

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Reading that article made me think that maybe it's because of autism being so much more prevalent in men that helps skew the code monkey gender statistic in favour of men.

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This article reads like it was from like 1998 - the naivete with which the author approaches this subject is very funny. As if nowadays you can just come out and say it's a bad thing to just hire women for the sake of it. Like, the guy seriously thinks he can logic his way out of this, like the people screaming about systemic injustice just need to hear a good argument.

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women in STEM

Train theory has proven that girls who like electronics are actually boys, and boys who like dolls are actually girls. Since preferences are innate and not learned, this is an intractable problem and talking about it is a waste of time..

Or maybe the problem is how kids are raised with gendered expectations but that might implicate childcarers/teachers, who are mostly (overwhelmingly) women, so better not talk about that either.

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I'm not reading redditors views but yes I always assume anyone who is a diversity hire is incompetent until proved otherwise, which is pretty bad really but its HRs fault

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>This reads like a guy who just got passed over for a promo or a new job by a woman and is butthurt over it.

I love all the lowkey shaming with how it's apparently only subpar men that feel threatened. It's on the same level as "lol ur insecure and have a small peepee".

Even if it's true, the low skilled men are still right. And they have a reason to be threatened because they're the marginal units that get displaced by diversity hires, of course highly skilled people don't give a shit.

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