I change my mind I fricking hate Rust.
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Does rust actually have a chance of supplanting C or nah?
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Rust is good for missions critical applications where security is a high priority (OS shit etc.) since all devcels I know are actually r-slurred and need the language to prevent them from doing stupid shit.
C and C++ are lighter weight for EEchads and C#/Java are your braindead simple options. Python is for cute twink mathcels so if you use it unironically
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Is there a chance we will see a viable OS written in rust in the next 5 yrs?
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I think there are already some Linux drivers written in it.
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Windows is being rewritten in Rust so yes
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jfc
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I like it. Windows will be more secure. Linux, meanwhile, will continue to have more holes poked into it every day since Linux devs are twice as stupid as Linux users who are already mouth breathers
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this comment oozes autismo
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As a linux user i cant argue
But muh kernel
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Python is unironically useful for scientific scripting. Please be more accepting of us differently abled programmers who are a legitimate use case for it.
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I unironically love python because it's friendly
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maybe if sciencecels used a programming language that didn't run slower than a 1980's cell phone they'd have fusion by now
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When we really need something to run fast we'll kidnap a codecel, most of the time things don't need to be optimized.
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If it can't be written in FORTRAN77 it's probably not worth writing anyways.
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just use scratch or something if you're too r-slurred to actually program
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It doesn't have the libraries that Python does, otherwise we would.
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No, I've seen actuarial textbooks where they warn the reader that "the following contains advanced mathematics so it's ok if you don't understand it" and then it's just rise over run for a small interval approximating the rate of change.
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It sucks that the pandas and numpy spergs didn't write their libraries in a good language, tbh.
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nah
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Rust hamstrings old machines where C programs work just fine
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Good C code is only a few steps above machine code, i was hoping for Rust to be improved C with a better/more efficient compil3r but i guess noT, just more of the same bloat weve been seeing in everything lately
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I see it a bit more sinister. The more bloated and restrictive you make your language then the more pathways you have to spy people thru hardware. Older hardware is more secure than new hardware 100%
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I follow the second half but not the first. If you have tight relations btwn memory space and code security is intrinsic but idk how the inverse makes it less secure. Code injection or what?
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They want to control your software. What kind of software you make, how you make it and where you make it. Nothing local, everything in a cloud or institutional account. I'm guess I'm rambling but that's my general fear of where industry is going.
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Nah that's fair, user end code will get cucked shortly but theres still tons of stufff running legacy code
I'm seeing rn in lots of hardware with a 21st century UI running a 2000s relay board. Lots of shit comes off the production line with like 512mb of ram and a single core proc taking instructions from essentially a tablet. It would be nice to see a leap in embedded PCB dev
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I saw this with secure boot, UEFI and TPM bs. Authentication at the firmware like this basically walls off the user from their own fricking property they paid for. If I want to mess around with my property and potentially wrech it, I should. It walls off user choice. Makes a general PERSONAL computer a Microsoft mandatory secureboot computers. No custom keys, no choice, no control. No software not ""trusted"" allowed on your own computer until your computer is just a fricking glorified smartphone with a tower.
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Not like a million shitty corpos are trying to find some margin while able to afford two devs and three ec2 containers, no - AWS, azure, and ali baba cloud exist in the market so that jews can control you
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How is there any relationship between language constraints and spying through hardware
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Secure boot and trusted computer platform. Authentication at the firmware level. It's walling off the user from their own computer. Trusted against the user and not the user trusting the computer.
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Using a different language to write my programs doesn't change that. It's not like writing a script in Python makes hardware encryption any different for the rest of my machine, and all that same stuff is exactly as accessible as it ever was through any other means
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I cant articulate it but i can see it, if ur writing in a language close enough to the base rings that includes convoluted trusted 3rd party libraries it could leave mitm avenues open
Like if C called
#include TrustedMemHandler
But the function called out to a server or smth and could read what u wrote to memory
Once libraries and other packages get too dense for inspection coupled with relying on perpetually connected packages, it could open interesting vectors
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I don't understand how this is an example of a restrictive language. I actually think you're talking about the exact opposite of what he was saying, since the entire point of this discussion is that rust can't do that with the safety on
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Idk i only understand things v superficially
Ill look into rust and try to de rslur myself
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No because its a flavor of the month language invented by zoomers so they can pretend they have value in job interviews.
Once all the rust people are in their careers another language will be fabricated out of thin air by the next batch of undergrads to do the same thing
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