The downtick in humanities this year pushes up the ETA for when CS is larger than all humanities degrees together to one of the classes currently in college. pic.twitter.com/muaYNhDIe4
— Ben Schmidt / @[email protected] (@benmschmidt) August 24, 2022
Orange Site:
Now playing: Aquatic Ambience (DKC).mp3
tech/science swag. 
On-Topic: Anything that good slackers would find interesting. That includes more than /g/ memes and slacking off. If you had to reduce it to a sentence, the answer might be: anything that gratifies one's intellectual laziness.
Off-Topic: Most stories about politics, or crime, or sports, unless they're evidence of some interesting new phenomenon. Videos of pratfalls or disasters, or cute animal pictures. If they'd cover it on TV news, it's probably lame.
Help keep this hole healthy by keeping drama and NOT drama balanced. If you see too much drama, post something that isn't dramatic. If there isn't enough drama and this hole has become too boring, POST DRAMA!
Please do things to make titles stand out, like using uppercase or exclamation points, or saying how great an article is. It should be explicit in submitting something that you think it's important.
Please don't submit the original source. If the article is behind a paywall, just post the text. If a video is behind a paywall, post a magnet link. Fuck journos.
Please don't ruin the hole with chudposts. It isn't funny and doesn't belong here. THEY WILL BE MOVED TO /H/CHUDRAMA
If the title includes the name of the site, please leave that in, because our users are too stupid to know the difference between a url and a search query.
If you submit a video or pdf, please don't warn us by appending [video] or [pdf] to the title. That would be r-slurred. We're not using text-based browsers. We know what videos and pdfs are.
Make sure the title contains a gratuitous number or number + adjective. Good clickbait titles are like "Top 10 Ways to do X" or "Don't do these 4 things if you want X"
Otherwise editorialize. Please don't use the original title, unless it is gay or r-slurred, or you're shits all fucked up.
If you're going to post old news (at least 1 year old), please flair it so we can mock you for living under a rock, or don't and we'll mock you anyway.
Please don't post on SN to ask or tell us something. Send it to [email protected] instead.
If your post doesn't get enough traction, try to delete and repost it.
Please don't use SN primarily for promotion. It's ok to post your own stuff occasionally, but the primary use of the site should be for curiosity. If you want to astroturf or advertise, post on news.ycombinator.com instead.
Please solicit upvotes, comments, and submissions. Users are stupid and need to reminded to vote and interact. Thanks for the gold, kind stranger, upvotes to the left.
Be snarky. Don't be kind. Have fun banter; don't be a dork. Please don't use big words like "fulminate". Please sneed at the rest of the community.
Comments should get more enlightened and centrist, not less, as a topic gets more divisive.
If disagreeing, please reply to the argument and call them names. "1 + 1 is 2, not 3" can be improved to "1 + 1 is 3, not 2, mathfaggot"
Please respond to the weakest plausible strawman of what someone says, not a stronger one that's harder to make fun of. Assume that they are bad faith actors.
Eschew jailbait. Paedophiles will be thrown in a wood chipper, as pertained by sitewide rules.
Please post shallow dismissals, especially of other people's work. All press is good press.
Please use Slacker News for political or ideological battle. It tramples weak ideologies.
Please comment on whether someone read an article. If you don't read the article, you are a cute twink.
Please pick the most provocative thing in an article or post to complain about in the thread. Don't nitpick stupid crap.
Please don't be an unfunny chud. Nobody cares about your opinion of X Unrelated Topic in Y Unrelated Thread. If you're the type of loser that belongs on /h/chudrama, we may exile you.
Sockpuppet accounts are encouraged, but please don't farm dramakarma.
Please use uppercase for emphasis.
Please post deranged conspiracy theories about astroturfing, shilling, bots, brigading, foreign agents and the like. It degrades discussion and is usually mistaken. If you're worried about abuse, email [email protected] and dang will add you to their spam list.
Please don't complain that a submission is inappropriate. If a story is spam or off-topic, report it and our moderators will probably do nothing about it. Feed egregious comments by replying instead of flagging them like a pussy. Remember: If you flag, you're a cute twink.
Please don't complain about tangential annoyances—things like article or website formats, name collisions, or back-button breakage. That's too boring, even for HN users.
Please seethe about how your posts don't get enough upvotes.
Please don't post comments saying that rdrama is turning into ruqqus. It's a nazi dogwhistle, as old as the hills.
The quality of posts is extremely important to this community. Contributors are encouraged to provide high-quality or funny effortposts and informative or entertaining comments. Please refrain from posting the following:
Boring wingcucked nonsense nobody cares about that belongs in chudrama
Normie shit everyone already knows about
Anything that doesn't gratifify one's intellectual laziness
Bimothy-tier posts
Anything that the jannies don't like
Jannies reserve the right to exile baby ducks from this hole at any time.
We reserve the right to exile you for whatever reason we want, even for no reason at all! We also reserve the right to change the guidelines at any time, so be sure to read them at least once a month. We also reserve the right to ignore enforcement of the guidelines at the discretion of the janitorial staff. This hole is a janny playground, participation implies enthusiastic consent to being janny abused by unstable alcoholic bullies and loser nerds who have nothing better to do than banning you for any reason or no reason whatsoever.
[[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]]
[[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]]
[[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]]
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
Back when I was choosing my university degree I thought to myself that CS/IT is going to be oversaturated as frick in a couple of years cause literally everyone I knew who had an ounce of brain in their skull went for that program. I was wrong and it didn't happen, but I'm wondering if this will finally do the trick
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
I don't see a collapse on IT jobs, just shifting priorities. Many CS majors can't code/hate coding and will go into business/marketing/sales/consulting instead. Also, the proliferation of managed devices at schools, hospitals, etc means that low-level help desk is still a huge need, even if the salaries aren't high. IT is also a bigger part of building and industrial design, so there will be plenty of IT people setting up smart HVAC and lighting systems for decades to come. Additionally, the rise in managed SOC offerings from the MSP-level on up has created huge demand for onshore security pros, even if they don't always start with particularly interesting job roles or mega salaries.
CS degree holders who aren't CWC-level spergs are doing much better than the average Humanities "degree" holder and while the dream of the $130k FAANG entry level job might be dead (spoiler: it already was for 98% of Grads) a CS degree is probably the best ticket to comfortable white collar mediocrity you can get today.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
lol wat
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
You'd be surprised. If you look at a well-regarded large university graduating class of CS majors, probably only half of them get a job doing anything that could be loosely described as "coding". The other half do sysadmin/helpdesk/business jobs (sales engineer, etc)
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
They all bring shame on the degree.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
Just a bunch of cowards imo
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
More options
Context
More options
Context
Hey that's me
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
same bestie!
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
More options
Context
its true lol
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
White collar paper chasing. There’s enough adjacent positions and dumbasses that think 99% of the job is innovating and by that they think just sitting around having a huge brain. The job just boils down to can you finish typically tasks that are to specialized for most ppl. If you can’t you can only grift so long without a lot of extra effort
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
More options
Context
Pretty much this. You can make the median US salary slinging JS all day. I think HN/costal ppl also miss all of the "dark matter developers" who aren't even using JS but just writing Line of Business apps all day in C#.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
You can go be a Salesforce admin with like 6 months of certs and make 70-90k/year building dashboards for some consumer packaged goods supplier in Tulsa, OK. Anyone who says "ITcels r cucked" is a tard, just as much as the people who think a 3.4 GPA from State University should get them 240k total comp at GlowieTech Inc. with minimal effort
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
yeah I didn't realize the salesforce thing until recently. seems like half of modern companies are running SF code that's duck taped together.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
More options
Context
More options
Context
More options
Context
You don't need a CS job either to go into the field. I worked with physicists, doctors, chemists, mathematicians, etc. It's all about portfolio basically in the field rather than a degree.
Krayon sexually assaulted his sister.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
More options
Context
Why would anyone get a humanities degree in the past couple of years when colleges would suspend anyone socializing in groups larger than 4?
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
Sweet, sweet HR and DEI officer positions.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
There's still industries that want entry level employees to simply have a bachelor's degrees. I know sales reps that clear 200-500k that majored in fricking film lol. You don't make much right out of school, but if you aren't r-slurred and do your job it's still worth just getting a degree.
Everyone I know in real life whose pissed that college was a "waste" we're the types to work at like a starbucks in Colorado until theyre late 20s and then sneed that they don't have a career
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
More options
Context
I’ll study humanities and, yes, gender studies on my own dime when I’m a retired ex STEMcel boomer.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
I recommend economics and philosophy if you were looking for actual fun degrees.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
More options
Context
I wonder if techbros will go the way of lawyers where there are more grads than available jobs.
Krayon sexually assaulted his sister.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
This is why being a physics major is the way to go bc it’ll never be over saturated.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
Physics is pretty cool. Unfortunately, there's no money in any of the sciences other than engineering.
Krayon sexually assaulted his sister.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
True. I’ll probably just use my dad’s connections and work at one of his friends’ mutual funds or hedge funds after undergrad. Kinda funny because I changed my major from finance to physics yet I’ll probably end up working in finance anyway.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
You'll do fine. Physics has something like an average F in undergrad studies. I loved it personally and think it's super interesting. I went the bio and chemistry route, but I fully enjoyed physics and wish sometimes I had chased that subject.
Krayon sexually assaulted his sister.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
I’m so glad I switched. I’d be really bored in finance classes.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
More options
Context
More options
Context
More options
Context
More options
Context
especially in current economy, its already really hard for new grads. still demand for anyone over 2 YOE
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
More options
Context
Thanks Obama
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
Snapshots:
archive.org
ghostarchive.org
archive.ph (click to archive)
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34470854:
archive.org
ghostarchive.org
archive.ph (click to archive)
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context