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Be Brave! :marseybrave: :firecat: Furryfox Users Can't Stop Coping About Market Share

https://old.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/10twwow/firefox_reaches_58_market_share_according_to

Firefox reaches 5.8 % market share according to Cloudflare Radar

https://radar.cloudflare.com/

When Firefox has reduced its market share in Statcounter (3 %), it's higher in Cloudflare Radar.

Cloudflare Radar uses the User Agent to determine the market share.

Statcounter’s core flaw is that it uses trackers, which are often blocked by tracker-blocking cowtools, like uBlock Origin, and [not sure] Firefox ETP. If Firefox ETP blocked that tracker, would be 0 % the market share at Statcounter?

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OP is extremely concerned with the methodology of Statcounter and proceeds to sperg out over a ~3% difference.

Are you concerned about Market Share for your shitty opensores browser? You might be a Firefox user :marseysmug2:

Wow, great if it's true.

Why great, was it less than 5.8% before? (I haven't been following this marketshare stuff closely, it's too depressing.)

Literally :doomerfront: over marketshare

Oh, then that is good news. :) Why do you think it's gone up? I kind of doubt that it's because the general public has gotten more of a clue…

Manifest V3

Is that the Google change that weakens ad-blockers? I kind of thought most people don't even know what an "ad blocker" is, but maybe I'm being too cynical…

Yes, Yes. Advocacy is important

Google kicking ad-blocking extension out will surly be the second coming of the Age of Furryfox :marseymothermary:

I fix and setup peoples' computers for my job. We just kind of started putting Chrome on new PCs people buy because it was kind of needed for some sites/services and was still much better than OG Edge and of course IE. But after Edge changed from actually being its own thing (even with it not being my choice for a daily browser it was at least not based on Chromium) and is in many ways better than Chrome at this point. I have made it my personal touch to add Firefox instead of Chrome on new PCs since we now since Edge is already present. So that way if a site is being weird a user could actually try a different browser/engine to see if it would work. I also have ran into random personal and client situations where Firefox handled/handles certain situations the way I or they need/want it to.

With Chrome being the new IE (in sites being made more and more for it), and many people not going out of their way to install/try other options. It would be dumb to not provide them with said option already on their new (or newly restored) PC, and can be easily removed if they want it gone. When I have to interact with them directly, I bring it up as an option if the person mentions security or privacy specifically (along with uBlock Origin, but also inform them that it works even better with FF).

Even with it being a couple of percentage points, it is really cool to see it growing. The only thing that I find possibly frustrating for new users is that the freaking Bookmarks menu button isn't on the toolbar by default and the one in the hamburger menu section doesn't show all the bookmarks and sub-folders, but instead seems to be like a bookmarks history that doesn't show non-recent stuff. Just seems like weird extra effort just to get something that was more straight forward in the past and works normally in Chromium browsers.

Aside from that I really really hate the weird first time run video thing and the Google-looking people in the "let's get started" post-install setup. I hate all the crazy extra "features" tabs and stuff that pops up when running Edge or Chrome at first. That stuff makes low-spec PCs basically lock-up and makes it just bad for those users. Firefox used to be just jumping straight into things or just a "your browser just installed an update" tab that isn't bloated. Now it seems like it is just trying too hard to emulate the already lame shit the others are doing. Just seems cringe to me. Maybe it would be less cringy (again to me) if Firefox were to just ask in a prompt before the browser loads for the first time asking if you are a new user or would like to skip it?

But aside from those two personal hang-ups I will still recommend Firefox to everyone. Gotta get those numbers up enough to make sure universal web standards don't just get coded for one kind of browser engine. We still get treated like outcasts for sites like Netflix and now with more cloud gaming services popping up they all require Chromium shit.

*Edited to break up things because apparently it really upsets some people way more than I would've thought. Just roll-on if you don't want to read something. Or just downmarsey like you already did.

:marseywords: I don't know if the above is pro or anti Furryfox but I will not read it regardless

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If you're a Furryfox loser...I mean user, please consider any of the following...

Being Brave

Voluptuous Vivaldi

Using Safari as Steve would have wished.

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Firefox remains the controlled opposition. It's like neocons.

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What other options do we have? Brave is some Chromium data mining crypto bull

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Who TF cares about market share.

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People worried about a Blink / WebKit monopoly I guess, but it's not like Gecko is any better these days, and Mozilla is actual controlled opposition so that nerds don't rise up :marseyakshually: and complain too much (more)

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People worried about a Blink / WebKit monopoly I guess

That's the problem with you brainless zoomers.

None of you remember the horrible and long lasting damage that came as a result of the last monopoly.

But that's fine, by the time you have to deal with it I'll have retired at 45 and won't care anymore.

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to be fair I absolutely would switch from chrome if they killed adblock

Brave would be 2nd choice right now but if that followed with making me look at ads it would be firefox

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Edge is soon gonna have Chat GPT built in to do crazy shit (like "summarize this webpage and write a mean comment in response,") it's gonna frick Chrome and Firefox. I already keep Chat GPT open constantly. That functionality is way too sick (I think it can go through Youtube transcripts too, so you can ask it about videos you're watching.)

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I fix and setup peoples' computers for my job. We just kind of started putting Chrome on new PCs people buy because it was kind of needed for some sites/services and was still much better than OG Edge and of course IE.

does internet exploration still existing at all?

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Whoever that r-slur is, needs to be shot, edge is way better and works for everything the ISIS chrome keeps hostage

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Last IE useragent I got had a Brazil IP adress

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Whoever that r-slur is, needs to be shot

Clearly never worked for a corporation or in any enterprise setting in the last 10 years.

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If you frick around with the shortcut there is some way to open edge fully as IE

I don’t know how but some of my coworkers managed to do it and break a bunch of internal applications

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What is his job? I feel like that kind of wagie job disappeared but I also feel like he’d have said “sysadmin” if he meant something different :marseyquestion:

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https://i.rdrama.net/images/16841380457808228.webp

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Firefox will never compete without a (good) mobile browser which gets combined with the desktop one, at least in stats. Still 5.8% is pretty bad. They still probably rake in that Google money.

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Wtf are you on about. Mobile FF is leagues better than chrome solely for allowing adblocking, they still have 1% market share on android.

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I use chrome over firefox on my phone because firefox is significantly slower. But that's probably because I refuse to buy a new phone until my old one won't turn on anymore. So my current phone is old.

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It's slower even when the ads are filtered? Yeah that's a good reasons then

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If it was better people would use it :taysmart:

Also not on iphone

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BIPOC cattle + dark pattern = inferior product

I don't even complain, them watching ads make adblocking viable in the first place, they pay for my internet

>Also not on iphone

Frick crapple

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I only use firefox because I like the UI more. Chrome and chromium are ugly even with themes. And their night mode doesn't work properly either. If it weren't for that I would be using ungoogled chromium

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:based::marseyhesright:

chrome (:marseypenguin:) has a flat circly UI but page elements such as <select> and scrollbars look boxy and gray like win98. plus the text rendering is nasty

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I refuse to use FF because of Mozilla and their r-sluration. Google is globohomomaxxed, and Brave is :marseyglow:

My gay niche early FF fork browser for homosexuals 4 life :marseylove:

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Based LibreWolf enjoyer?

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I was taking about Pale Moon but yours looks good too.

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What about Edge?

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I remember 5 or so years ago downloading firefox because it was shilled hard as a "more secure chrome" and I caught some annoying butt adware in half an hour lmao. Been a Chromium lad since

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I still use FF because I'm lazy.

Our work machines have FF, Chrome and Edge installed. We're still in the big boy club foxbros :marseycope:

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I use firefox because I like the fox :tracelove:

other features are secondary

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At least Firefox has AdBlock on mobile

:#marseyitsoverhappy:

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And yet runs way slower than Bromite, rip.

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i use netscape 7

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:marseytroublemaker: firefox is the new IE

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I hate it

Chrome for life

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Idk, Librewolf is comfy just werks :marseyneet:, and has everything I need without having to modify some r-slurred user.js everytime I install it.

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