In the case of China I am pretty sure that they have got their secret tech upgraded all the way up to whatever peak tech the US had in the 2010's.
The US on the other hand the rule of thumb is generally 2-3 decades ahead of the public sector in terms of certain secret technologies.
The two satellites they donated to NASA around 2011 were likely released in the 1990's for secret government usage and even by 2011 were advanced enough specs to be of use to NASA.
It is likely that even now there are multiple secret US organizations in existence working from behind the scenes.
Even the NSA was discovered only because of leaks.
There is very likely a NSA replacement that already exists.
So what kind of tech does the US secret agencies currently possess?
Likely things that would only become relevant to the public by the 2040's.
What kind of things are those?
Armed robot dogs, drone swarms, live underground tracking satellites, next gen stealth jets and crafts, rod guns in space, a second secret space station in space that nobody is aware of, likely released in small modules over the course of years to decades separate from the ISS, fully functioning robo bees and robo beetles.
Which of these do you figure already exists somewhere out there but for the moment is simply classified?
Also if the government secret programs already have far more advanced tech, then do you think they actively interfere in public tech sector? As in reveal their tech to specific individuals who will be chosen by them to become the next multi billionaires? Or do they let the public sector do whatever they want and there is simply a separate civilization within a civilization that just goes huh neat, they caught up to where we were in the 1970's.
I am pretty sure the secret town sized bases under mountains is a real thing with the US forces. No clue how deep they go though.
For additional context it cost Apple around 2.3 billion dollars in research in total to build the first Iphone.
The Falcon 9 space rocket development cost is believed to be around 390 million US dollars.
US black budgets as per my knowledge go to at least 50-100 billion dollars in a year. ( This number might be wildly incorrect so do correct me if it is. )
Which is to say the US black budget is big enough to develop a new revolutionary piece of technology 20-250 times over easily in a year.
so if the US secret tech gizmos are supposed to be so advanced and all, then why aren't they winning wars?
Well, simply put, one argument could be that they do not have enough competent Americans in America who could be officially given the required clearance to work on these black projects.
The other argument could be that the US military operations are offensive operations and the black project stuff is kept under wraps for a defensive war.
You might use a black project tech to win one war, but in return now the world knows that tech already exists out there and doubles down on building something similar.
But DLMO, you argue, why would the US let the Chinese get so close to victory if the US has such advanced tech?
Easy, it's military grade tech meant to conduct war. As of now the US is still fighting its war via diplomatic channels, which since the mid 2010's has extended into economic warfare, military capabilities are yet to be deployed in any meaningful sense.
The US hasn't gotten desperate enough yet.
On the other hand, exactly how advanced is the US secret tech?
It's certainly not a secret second military worth, that would be too expensive.
It would be individual pieces of tech way ahead of their times because they can afford to spend the money on it.
Most of it would likely be design schematics even, for what they can add to future generation weapons systems that is actually plausible.
So what do you figure is in there, behind the scenes?
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They don't have shit, maybe a few very expensive marginal improvements on existing technology. The bigger the community sharing info, the faster science develops. You can only get so far by expensively hyperfocusing on low-hanging fruit of a niche subfield in secret. Sure at the right moment with extreme effort it can give you a short lead on key technology (burgers had nukes for under half a decade until the Soviets got them as a result of the biggest secret research project ever, especially in terms of the human capital).
And regarding lasers, burgers outsource that to Israel (Iron Beam), they wouldn't be paying Israel to develop it for them if they already had it.
Edit: nvm lasers were in someone else's comment.
FFS you baited me into longposting.
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If this is a long post then I am a valid woman.
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This is like 3x longer than any dramatard should be willing to be caught dead with having typed up.
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My brother in rice, the lack of paras on this website is not a cultural preference but an average dramanaut brain capacity limitation.
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Brevity is the soul of rslurration.
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Not all of it is marginal. US turbine blades are still way ahead of Chinese ones. But all that stuff is just boring material tech that just takes a lot of trial and error plus experience.
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https://vulcanpost.com/814482/new-technology-uses-wifi-to-see-people-through-walls/
https://www.digitaltrends.com/cool-tech/wi-fi-radiation-transparent-walls/
Crazy at it sounds, we have the technology for a real-time 3D map of the world (or at least everywhere with good wifi). We're talking detailed enough to see people's faces. You'd need to backdoor a lot of routers, or have agreements with the manufacturers, and a shitload of processing power, but the tech itself has been public for years. Hook it up with other data sources like mobiles and facial recognition cameras, there's no such thing as privacy in cities any more. The NSA or a successor org is 100% working on this.
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Electrogravitics and anti grav tech have been around since the 50s. TT browning
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