In the case of China I am pretty sure that they have got their secret tech upgraded all the way up to whatever peak tech the US had in the 2010's.
The US on the other hand the rule of thumb is generally 2-3 decades ahead of the public sector in terms of certain secret technologies.
The two satellites they donated to NASA around 2011 were likely released in the 1990's for secret government usage and even by 2011 were advanced enough specs to be of use to NASA.
It is likely that even now there are multiple secret US organizations in existence working from behind the scenes.
Even the NSA was discovered only because of leaks.
There is very likely a NSA replacement that already exists.
So what kind of tech does the US secret agencies currently possess?
Likely things that would only become relevant to the public by the 2040's.
What kind of things are those?
Armed robot dogs, drone swarms, live underground tracking satellites, next gen stealth jets and crafts, rod guns in space, a second secret space station in space that nobody is aware of, likely released in small modules over the course of years to decades separate from the ISS, fully functioning robo bees and robo beetles.
Which of these do you figure already exists somewhere out there but for the moment is simply classified?
Also if the government secret programs already have far more advanced tech, then do you think they actively interfere in public tech sector? As in reveal their tech to specific individuals who will be chosen by them to become the next multi billionaires? Or do they let the public sector do whatever they want and there is simply a separate civilization within a civilization that just goes huh neat, they caught up to where we were in the 1970's.
I am pretty sure the secret town sized bases under mountains is a real thing with the US forces. No clue how deep they go though.
For additional context it cost Apple around 2.3 billion dollars in research in total to build the first Iphone.
The Falcon 9 space rocket development cost is believed to be around 390 million US dollars.
US black budgets as per my knowledge go to at least 50-100 billion dollars in a year. ( This number might be wildly incorrect so do correct me if it is. )
Which is to say the US black budget is big enough to develop a new revolutionary piece of technology 20-250 times over easily in a year.
so if the US secret tech gizmos are supposed to be so advanced and all, then why aren't they winning wars?
Well, simply put, one argument could be that they do not have enough competent Americans in America who could be officially given the required clearance to work on these black projects.
The other argument could be that the US military operations are offensive operations and the black project stuff is kept under wraps for a defensive war.
You might use a black project tech to win one war, but in return now the world knows that tech already exists out there and doubles down on building something similar.
But DLMO, you argue, why would the US let the Chinese get so close to victory if the US has such advanced tech?
Easy, it's military grade tech meant to conduct war. As of now the US is still fighting its war via diplomatic channels, which since the mid 2010's has extended into economic warfare, military capabilities are yet to be deployed in any meaningful sense.
The US hasn't gotten desperate enough yet.
On the other hand, exactly how advanced is the US secret tech?
It's certainly not a secret second military worth, that would be too expensive.
It would be individual pieces of tech way ahead of their times because they can afford to spend the money on it.
Most of it would likely be design schematics even, for what they can add to future generation weapons systems that is actually plausible.
So what do you figure is in there, behind the scenes?
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They don't have shit, maybe a few very expensive marginal improvements on existing technology. The bigger the community sharing info, the faster science develops. You can only get so far by expensively hyperfocusing on low-hanging fruit of a niche subfield in secret. Sure at the right moment with extreme effort it can give you a short lead on key technology (burgers had nukes for under half a decade until the Soviets got them as a result of the biggest secret research project ever, especially in terms of the human capital).
And regarding lasers, burgers outsource that to Israel (Iron Beam), they wouldn't be paying Israel to develop it for them if they already had it.
Edit: nvm lasers were in someone else's comment.
FFS you baited me into longposting.
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If this is a long post then I am a valid woman.
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This is like 3x longer than any dramatard should be willing to be caught dead with having typed up.
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My brother in rice, the lack of paras on this website is not a cultural preference but an average dramanaut brain capacity limitation.
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Brevity is the soul of rslurration.
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Not all of it is marginal. US turbine blades are still way ahead of Chinese ones. But all that stuff is just boring material tech that just takes a lot of trial and error plus experience.
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https://vulcanpost.com/814482/new-technology-uses-wifi-to-see-people-through-walls/
https://www.digitaltrends.com/cool-tech/wi-fi-radiation-transparent-walls/
Crazy at it sounds, we have the technology for a real-time 3D map of the world (or at least everywhere with good wifi). We're talking detailed enough to see people's faces. You'd need to backdoor a lot of routers, or have agreements with the manufacturers, and a shitload of processing power, but the tech itself has been public for years. Hook it up with other data sources like mobiles and facial recognition cameras, there's no such thing as privacy in cities any more. The NSA or a successor org is 100% working on this.
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Electrogravitics and anti grav tech have been around since the 50s. TT browning
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Ridiculously high resolution satellite imaging, especially non-visible frequencies.
Useful Laser weapons, Star Wars wasn't complete waste
Real time wifi imaging with enough resolution to read lips and identify people behind walls
Dark factory (probably not, I think civilian will get this first but maybe)
Stealth, electronic warfare, and explosive tech obviously
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it's probably called the death star of david"
trans lives matter.
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Dark factories dont make any sense as secret military tech. Miltec exists to scam as much money as possible in as grand a fashion as possible.
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Yeah but sometimes they give nerds a blank check to do something some bigwig thinks sounds cool and dark factories sound cool .
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Oh, you mean "R&D."
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dark factory sounds dope. Will probably be the end point of the 4th industrial revolution or the beginning of the 5th one.
rest sounds neat.
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We’ve been pretty close to those for almost a century, FANUC has a factory that can run lights out for like a month. The only remaining bit is automated repair
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Lol just found the link right now, was about to post it when I saw your comment.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lights_out_(manufacturing)
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Candy that turns you gay
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Even better Candy that turns you straight.
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The CIA definitely has a gun the makes you shit and c*m yourself.
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I imagine testing for that was just walking around with a shit beam disguised as a water bottle, and aiming it at random passerbys.
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Facial recognition is way further along and commonly employed than people think. With the spread of things like Ring cameras, you're basically being tracked 24/7 now even without your cell phone on you. Casinos have used it for like a decade to ban sharps, there's no way it hasn't expanded to other purposes.
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Wait people didn't realize walking into a city meant constant surviellence already?
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I'm not trying to be mean, honest, but are you okay dude? Your fixation on China can't be healthy.
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This is fine
Are you ok bro? Don't you know the US is the only relevant place in the world bro? Why would anybody ever talk about China as often as the US? It makes no sense.
More seriously though it's just to frick with the Americans. Make sure they know they aren't the only player anymore.
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I mean, it's normal for americans to talk about america. You sound like you're afraid of China maybe? Plus this isn't really the kind of community that argues about geopolitics that often.
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Yeah I like geopolitics.
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Not sure if it counts because it’s been done in animals, but
some ability to keep a person “alive”, like a severed head hooked up to artificial heart/kidneys indefinitely, still able to process visual/auditory stimuli and communicate.
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We've had the autojektor since the 1930s, guarantee the only reason we don't do the same thing to humans is because it's really freaky.
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It's interesting as a thought experiment, but as a lifelong condition it will likely be a miserable experience, for an intermittent period to transfer the head to a new body though, it would be good fun.
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I imagine it would be used for intelligence situations, like spy gets some vital info but gets mortally wounded so they keep his head alive long enough to debrief.
Or for rich/important people to stay alive long enough to pass on secure financial information in the event of an accident.
Eventually people will use it to for mundane stuff like staying alive long enough to say bye to loved ones, or receive last rites from a priest (despite the whole thing feeling sacrilegious, but hey, religions adapt to the times)
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huh your ideas actually sound pretty kino, I approve.
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Ya as I was typing it I thought that this shit better show up in a James Bond movie.
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Next one fingers crossed.
Also apparently James Bond and other sci fi ish secret group movies are pretty good to figure out what tech in the next 10-15 years might end up like. At least that's what I read somewhere.
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I've worked for a private-sector lab that works with the government, and what I saw there wasn't super mind-blowing. I mainly did public work on quantum computing, but there were quite a few people doing materials science and laser work.
There was a lot of interesting stuff, and very likely stuff I didn't know about, but I doubt it's as advanced as what you were thinking about.
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Spy satellites are pretty advanced though? Maybe you just didn't have the clearance.
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From a purely technical perspective, spy satellites aren't terribly advanced. I definitely didn't have high clearance, but the work I did see wasn't anything like what you're talking about, so unless they were just putting the research on as show for the other people who worked there, the more secretive research can't be that much more advanced. I'd doubt they'd really care much about 3D printing with combinations of metals if they already had nanomachines or whatever.
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Secret research is less nanomachines son and more like today's tech taken to its extreme peak to get every drop of juice out of it.
So for example, instead of one satellite to track the galaxy, your instead get a satellite and put the very best state of the art lenses you can on it budget be darned and generally not cutting a single corner and maxing the output will get you stuff that is still relevant 20 years later, downside being that making one of those costs like a billion bucks instead of the more consumer focused 300 million R&D product.
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Probably the most advanced quantum computers and algorithms that drop the codebreaking time from a gorillion years to six months. Anything internet probably isn’t much more impressive than what Google is doing right now. An AI that scrapes websites and metadata, pregenerated black mail lists for everyone they can name, etc
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Alien tech
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In order to completely abolish s*x, women themselves would have to be abolished. All women must be quarantined like the plague they are, so that they can be used in a manner that actually benefits a civilized society. In order carry this out, there must exist a new and powerful type of government, under the control of one divine ruler, such as myself. The ruler that establishes this new order would have complete control over every aspect of society, in order to direct it towards a good and pure place. At the disposal of this government, there needs to be a highly trained army of fanatically loyal troops, in order to enforce such revolutionary laws.
The first strike against women will be to quarantine all of them in concentration camps. At these camps, the vast majority of the female population will be deliberately starved to death. That would be an efficient and fitting way to kill them all off. I would take great pleasure and satisfaction in condemning every single woman on earth to starve to death. I would have an enormous tower built just for myself, where I can oversee the entire concentration camp and gleefully watch them all die. If I can't have them, no one will, I'd imagine thinking to myself as I oversee this. Women represent everything that is unfair with this world, and in order to make the world a fair place, they must all be eradicated.
A few women would be spared, however, for the sake of reproduction. These women would be kept and bred in secret labs. There, they will be artificially inseminated with sperm samples in order to produce offspring. Their depraved nature will slowly be bred out of them in time.
Future generations of men would be oblivious to these remaining women's existence, and that is for the best. If a man grows up without knowing of the existence of women, there will be no desire for s*x. Sexuality will completely cease to exist. Love will cease to exist. There will no longer be any imprint of such concepts in the human psyche. It is the only way to purify the world.
In such a pure world, the man's mind can develop to greater heights than ever before. Future generations will live their lives free of having to worry about the barbarity of s*x and women, which will enable them to expand their intelligence and advance the human race to a state of perfect civilization.
It is such a shameful pity that my ideal world cannot be created. I realized long ago that there is no way I could possibly rise to such a level of power in my lifetime, with the way the world is now. Such a thing will never become a reality for me, but it did give me something to fantasize about as I burned with hatred towards all women for rejecting me throughout the years. This whole viewpoint and ideology of abolishing s*x stems from being deprived of it all my life. If I cannot have it, I will do everything I can to DESTROY IT.
Snapshots:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Reconnaissance_Office:
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archive.ph (click to archive)
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