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[Rambling about linux] [not even drama] Did you know ubuntu mates BASE install size is 8gb?

Fricking bloat!

I'm trying to find a distro that fits entirely in the 8gb so I can fit it entirely in ram on an old dell I fixed so I can use it as a snappy little streaming box (because I don't have a spare harddrive and am too lazy to buy one).

Ubuntu mate (A supposed "lightweight" distro!) BASE install is much too fat to fit (remember I need to fit the whole OS, all installed programs plus firefox/chrome/MPV into 8gb of ram).

Antix is nice at 750mb, but it doesn't include the display drivers out of the box and doesn't include any easy way to install them (and to boot lshw on my dell returns many weird and some outright wrong infomation)

Neither ubuntu or antix managed wifi drivers, or even to detect the card.

My point is devshits have pissed away 10 years of hardware advancement and could u plz recommend a distro

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distro that fits entirely in the 8gb of ram

You're being difficult and confusing. You want to set up a computer without a harddrive? What are you booting it off of? Can't you just use that for storage?

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You're being difficult and confusing.

:#marseyagree:

You want to set up a computer without a harddrive?

Yes

What are you booting it off of? Can't you just use that for storage?

a usb 2.0 and no, because the load times on anything is insane.

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What's wrong with Debian?

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:#marseyshrug: I've had it be hit or miss in the past when it comes to drivers.

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download the nonfree drivers iso. actually you might not even need to i think they changed it so the regular one prompts you now

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:#marseyautism:

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100%

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RedstarOS 3.0

https://i.rdrama.net/images/16803249891075916.webp

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TempleOS easily fits, I think it should be less than 100 MB. It also has many hymns included in the base install. Driver support is a bit spotty, though

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:#marseygroomerarch:

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Puppy Linux lmao

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literally boot it rn

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Based

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And it doesn't like my display driver :marseycry:

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Bruh what card are you running?

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adding nomodeset worked!

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Let's fricking gooooooo

Whats the plan with this machine? Just for funsies?

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Whats the plan with this machine? Just for funsies?

Yup. Just wanted someone to stream music when I'm outside, decided to go no harddrive and all in ram for funsies

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No idea, It's 2015 Dell Insprion (I forget the exact model)

Gonna try again in safe mode

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I used to use puppy Linux for my 00s flash drive boots.

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Seems lightweight

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:#marseyshrug:

I remember being a teencel and all the lightweight distros used sub 512 mb of ram. Heck when I was a kid they used 64! I get things are different now, but really how much OS (binaries + ram usage) do u really need.

Another big thing is python. They all use python these days and python is HEAVY and SLOW

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:marseypirate: : Arrr matey, it be true that things were different back when ye were a wee lass, but times be changin'! These days, we need a bit more oomph from our operating systems, what with all the heavy-liftin' we be doin'. And as fer Python bein' heavy an' slow, well, that may be so, but it still be the best language fer writin' code, so we be stickin' with it.

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And as fer Python bein' heavy an' slow, well, that may be so, but it still be the best language fer writin' code, so we be stickin' with it.

!codecels captain_bbbb has spoken!

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:marseypirate: : Aye, I be the captain, and what I say goes! So mind yer manners, or I'll have ye walk the plank!

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God bless the captain.

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ultimate proof the bot is r-slurred

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Why do you not not dishatelike python, BBB? I thought it was your favorite because it sucks???


Give me your money and I'll annoy people with it :space: https://i.rdrama.net/images/16965516366194396.webp

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:marseypirate: : Argh, matey! I be lovin' python 'cause it be simple and easy to learn. It don't be suckin'!

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I was jk, 8gb isn't lightweight for a Linux distro. I was comparing to Winbloat. Do you prefer Ubuntu, Debian, Fedora, Arch-based, or some other weird niche distro?

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I like Ubuntu for ease of use (it works out of the box 90% of the time) but with all that snap shit it's getting HEAVY

Thinking of moving to fedora

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Maybe try Linux Lite if you want to stay with Ubuntu, but Fedora isn't lightweight

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tbh I really just have to update my cpu to one made in the last 5 or 10 years, but I hate not using perfectly good hardware!

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How old is that shitbox?

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2014ish

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Any lightweight Linux distro should work fine :marseyshrug: if it's low-end or get a better SSD

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I love Windows 11

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Pop!_OS ffs

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I love Pop!_OS, but GNOME runs like a paraplegic, especially on older hardware.

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gnomes are known to have short legs, and a stumpy disregard for getting carried through Valve™ titles. if your gnome isn't performing as expected, have you tried bashing it's pathetic little brains against the wall?


Give me your money and I'll annoy people with it :space: https://i.rdrama.net/images/16965516366194396.webp

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You’ll probably run into libc issues but Alpine Linux explicitly has a tool for setups like this.

https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Alpine_local_backup

I’m curious what GPU you are using (these “lightweight” distros are targeting like 2000s era hardware. 2015 isn’t really that slow for these distros), why you can’t increase the RAM on a 2015 era machine, and especially why you can’t get a cheap SSD. Hard drives are balls but I have Macintoshes from the 90s that I can boot from an SD card. There’s zero reason to use spinning rust ever as a boot drive.

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and especially why you can’t get a cheap SSD

This is a salvage machine and I think someone literally ripped the harddrive out at one point. Ribbon connectors are damaged and I can't get it to see any hard drives I put in.

I'll keep it around until I get another I can strip for parts

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Ribbon connectors? Is this 2015 or older?

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Is this 2015 or older?

It's 2013 or 2014 I forget which

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Is it SATA or IDE?

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SATA

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Gotcha, I’ve never heard the term used for SATA cables.

Yeah that’s unfortunate if the port got ripped off.

What’s the GPU situation like? Id understand the issues if it’s Nvidia or older AMD but Intel should be very painless with only a few exceptions.

Another fix might be getting a PCIe SATA controller so you can actually connect a drive.

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What’s the GPU situation like? Id understand the issues if it’s Nvidia or older AMD but Intel should be very painless with only a few exceptions.

:#marseyshrug:

All the dells from this era are like this, displays don't work without nomodeset until you fiddle for a while/update the drivers

I ended up throwing the latest ubuntu and that worked out of the box so I'm assuming there was a driver bug that got fixed

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Hm that is curious. I thought 2015 was past the days of nomodeset

The good news is Alpine has support for mainline kernels with the linux-edge package if you decide to play with that. Clearly Ubuntu is ideal though.

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