No one noticed?
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"All Frank was doing was making it simpler to fill out standard federal financial aid paperwork" but she pretended it provided $28k in student loans 2x the national average
she filled their user database with 4 million fake emails/names
it took JPMorgan a year to noootice
"Despite a public record that raised questions about Javice and Frank — including warnings from the Department of Education and Federal Trade Commission, and a wage theft lawsuit from Frank's cofounder — news outlets and investors kept buying into the narrative that Javice spun."
arrested & facing up to 30yrs in prison
"Over and over, Javice earned plaudits in the media for projects whose impact she overstated. Glowing profiles missed inaccuracies that could have been caught with a basic fact-check, focusing instead on her youth and status as one of a small number of women startup founders. One journ*list even introduced Javice, then 19, to a key Frank investor."
Her background
^ Her with her brother @ 19
ambitious af: originally made a microfinance startup called PoverUp (yuck) in high school with her brother
told the media she raised $300k for the startup, but there's no proof
CNBC ran a bit about Peter Thiel's "paid to not go to college" grant, she appeared on the show claiming she turned the offer down, Peter Thiel emailed CNBC saying she was not even selected
still got her tons of press
"Fast Company's 2011 list of 100 Most Creative People and a complimentary writeup in Forbes. PoverUp was ranked as one of the "11 coolest college startups" by Inc. Magazine, while Wharton called Javice "the voice of a microfinance generation" in a video it has since removed from YouTube."
Startup number two
since PoverUp wasn't a real company and naturally died, she created another company with an Isreali called "tapd: a company that connected young workers with job opportunities via text message"
completely bombed, lost a few hundred k and ended up in a lawsuit w/ Isreali courts
she pivoted Tapd to an entirely new market that (surprise) turned out to be heavily regulated and she didn't do the research. Sold it as a "learning moment"
despite this Isreali dude joined her at Frank, before she jewed him out of 10% equity and failed to pay him salary, so he sued her
That doesn't stop a girlboss though:
While the story of Tapd seemed to be one of failure and contentious mismanagement, Javice would spin that turmoil into a story of triumph. The young founder made the crisis part of her personal success story, omitting the lawsuit and framing the layoffs as a teaching moment
Media sucking her (girl) peepee
In 2018 NYTimes let her do an Op-ed:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/19/opinion/fafsa-college-financial-aid.html
and was forced to follow it up with a long correction because apparently she didnt know shit about student aid
She got lots of local news:
The death blow:
Frank's public statements about its user base were all over the map.
In April 2017, Frank's website said "thousands" of families using its service had received "$75 million in free aid." (That same website had stock images of people, including of "smiling mature woman" and "good looking cheerful manager," labeled as actual users.)
In November 2018, Frank's website said it had helped 300,000 families unlock over $7 billion in aid.
Frank stuck with the "over 300,000" figure for more than two years. But suddenly, in January 2021, the company began claiming that it served "over 4.25 million students," according to archived versions of its website and tweets from Frank's account referenced in JP Morgan's lawsuit.
In reality, Frank only ever had about 250,000 users, according to JPMorgan's legal complaint.
Orange site discusses: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35441211
(PDF) The JPMorgan complaint: https://content.fortune.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/Complaint-1.pdf
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You left out the best part: a JPM analyst became suspicious when he noticed the number of "users" matched Excel's row limit
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No way
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lmfao
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I fricking love how the gist of this story is "they were defrauded because nobody would possibly commit a crime this obviously and badly."
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That’s every con story though.
Bernie Madoff, Enron, and Elizabeth Holmes were all scrutinized and every observer had the same takeaway:
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Based dunning kruger chads taking one look and saying "seems like bullshit"
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Making your mark think they're in on the con is one of the #1 steps in successful conning.
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the gist of the Trump story is the American Republicans were swept up because no one would commit crimes/fascism that obviously and badly
tbh now that Trump is getting the legal system results I'm a lot more inclined to laugh about the whole thing
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I was only in start-up world for a few years but that is VERY easy to imagine due to how most companies are "supposed" to fail by VC funding logic.
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Reverse psychology. Truly a girlboss moment.
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Power of 2 nooticers are the next step in human evolution
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Based Excel-maxxer
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Lmao I may just update my dating profile bio to Excelmaxxer
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Autism wins again.
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Some article I glanced over (might even be the one you linked but I ain't reading any more ) said that she wouldn't share any specific information about the users due to privacy concerns and that's how she got JPM to buy it without ever knowing it was blatant fraud.
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Yep, from the lawsuit:
She paid this prof $13k to make the list seem accurate.
Then JPMC tried to use this list (because why else buy the fricking company?):
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lmao, this is why we need gdpr
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So is this a compulsive lying issue or what? How did she see this playing out? It's not like returning a vitamix box full of rocks to Amazon, at some point they were inevitably going to look closely at the software they bought.
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Between this and wework and FTX and juicero and theranos, I'm convinced all conspiracies are fake. The billionaire elites have no idea what they're doing, it's r-slurs all the way up.
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Juicero at least had a real working product. It was way overdesigned and underbuilt, but it at least did what it promised. The grift there was selling VC schmucks on the power of organic cold pressed juice as a service. In a way though it was weirdly prescient and with some retooling and a more realistic pricing scheme I think it might actually have legs now.
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Honestly feels like juicero and peloton are the same product. There's a timeline where every aspiring SVcel has a saas juicer next to their daylight alarm clock, and peloton flopped to a chorus of jeering "exercise bikes already exist" articles. It's not like those investors in particular were stupid, all investments ultimately come down to "yeah I have a good feeling about this one, throw 9 figures at it".
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Peloton's product is selling you the motivation to exercise. For customers who aren't intrinsically motivated, this requires a subscription service because you need to summon motivation from somewhere each time you exercise. I think it also has a bunch of "show off to your friends" features that allow it to be a status symbol in a way a juicer can't be.
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Motivation is fleeting and only works in the beginning, you need discipline. And discipline is very alien to 21st century Americans.
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any day now Imma set mine up!
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Yeah if it had been half the cost and didn't have a subscription product that could be juiced by hand, it probably would still be around
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it was. literally. a real company. with a real product.
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Probably hoped to still be in charge after the buy out and eventually grow to that size with legit users, or that JPM would be too embarrassed to do anything about it.
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Grindmaxxers live on "fake it til you make it" where you lie until your company actually takes off, and then you scrub your lies away. She probably thought that they would eventually have a working product and eventually have 4 million users. She just needed more money first, and their tracks could be covered for long enough to get there.
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For the vast majority of fraudsters, the first person they fool is themselves. She probably genuinely didn't think she did anything wrong.
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shocking how easy it is to scam the media if you're a young business foid.
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I honestly respect them for taking sucker's money. Be good looking women and act confident and you can rip off middle iq men.
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This was Theranos 2.0 but not as successful
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Theranos was a REAL business you moron
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https://cinchnews.com/2023/01/03/elizabeth-holmes-a-hero-who-fell-victim-to-the-white-patriarchy/
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I just read an entire book dedicated to how r-slurred anyone who thinks that is
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https://cinchnews.com/2023/01/03/elizabeth-holmes-a-hero-who-fell-victim-to-the-white-patriarchy/
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Please be mindful of !chuds when writing about peoples backgrounds. It's missing a piece of information that's very important to us.
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She's Jewish
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!nooticers it happened again
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We rock
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I cant decide if that article is anti-semitic, or the weasel scamming the bankers is.
!jidf please help me figure this out
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She is based for getting that bag, the bank is not based for failing due diligence utterly on the first attempt and taking a year to figure it out
She is not antisemitic as Dimon is not Jewish and JPM is a broadly held company
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Goyim simply cannot keep up with the advanced economic of YHWH's chosen
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yahway or highway
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Why does the israel times consider that relevant? Anyone could con the largest bank, it has nothing to do with her ancestry and heritage. They aren't antisemitic, are they?
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It's aspirational
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Stealing $175m from a bank is one of the most anti-semitic acts you can commit
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But also one of the most semitic acts you could commit. How is a man to determine who to side with?
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Ask your rabbi. And then consider a "donation" to your local synagogue
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Godammit, even the torah, my guide in everything, can't provide me any good advice here.
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Jewish pride.
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she also scammed some israelis in a previous startup fraud, probably why
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<4chan noticing israel is jews meme>
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One of us. She single tho?
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You planning on conjugal visits?
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I’ll break her out of prison and sail together down to Columbia.
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Colombia* common mistake
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Nah Columbia, she needs to get that data science professor to fake another 4 million accounts
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I mean she obviously looked it anyway.
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If you can't tell she's jewish looking at that first picture, you need to fix your jewdar bro
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you can kinda tell by looking at her brother's picture. Plus her isreali cofounder, her "Chief Growth Officer" who got charged with her was also from isreal. They stick together. Google only gave me this headline:
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You can tell by looking at her nose
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She honestly should have cashed out and hied thee to Israel. Israel famously refuses to extradite.
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That's only if you're a libertarian with connections to religious leaders.
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When keeping the "fake it till you make it" mentality goes wrong (committing financial fraud)
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It's same shit as Elizabeth Holmes, people badly want the story of the girl Google Guys with almost religious intensity. A good fraud is about knowing the story people want. War Nerd John Dolan wrote about it, I think he did academic work on book frauds, and that was his conclusion.
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no way, a female in a male dominated field who was being endlessly praised for having a vagina may have stretched the truth a bit!? this never happens!!!
dork moids are fricking pathetic
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I’m guessing anyone who was like “wait a second” got the drydick incel treatment
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"wait a second"
"yikes. you incel?"
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Can somebody crunch the numbers on what percentage of female startup founders have been indicted for fraud so @tina can whip up a cinch news piece about how the comparative over-prosecution of birthing-bodied thought leaders is really just a bludgeon used by the techbro elites to preserve and edify the last desperate gasps of their silicon valley boys club in order to forestall the inevitable pink kitty-hatted march of female progress?
Trans lives matter
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The real problem is Techbros put unrealistic standards on women, like expecting them to be capable of creating a high growth startup from nothing, that they get pressured into faking it.
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Fiscal responsibility and corporate legal compliance are such a gemini thing lol
Trans lives matter
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in other words, it is the patriarchy's fault
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She girl-bossed too close to the sun
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Got too hot and the makeup melted off
trans lives matter
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smiling mature woman
good looking cheerful manager
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God forbid a Women does anything!
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I don't have access to my email atm but someone who's subbed to Money Stuff copypaste Matt Levine's coverage of this here because it's hilarious. There's some point where she says something like "I don't think anyone's gonna end up in an orange jumpsuit" to her CTO.
This is the link but I don't have a sub.
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2023-01-12/jpmorgan-says-frank-was-fraud#xj4y7vzkg
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Yeah, this write up didn't even include the data scientist!
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Programming note: Money Stuff will be off tomorrow and Monday, back on Tuesday.
Frank!
In 2021, JPMorgan Chase & Co. paid $175 million to acquire Frank, a financial technology company that helps students fill out college financial aid forms. It is not obvious why this would be a lucrative business for JPMorgan, or Frank, but that was not really the point of the acquisition. The point of the acquisition is that helping students fill out college financial aid forms, while not itself lucrative, might help you build long-term financial relationships with them at an early and impressionable point in their lives. If Frank helps a student fill out her financial aid forms, she might like Frank, so when Frank emails her and says “hey now that you’re in college you should set up a checking account, here’s one,” she might open the checking account — at JPMorgan — that Frank recommends. Later, she might get her mortgage through a Frank recommendation. JPMorgan was buying Frank’s customer relationships, so that it could use them to sell financial products that were lucrative.
That is, in some sense, JPMorgan paid Frank $175 million for an email list. As the proprietor of an email list myself, I have some interest in this transaction.
It went poorly. Frank’s founder, Charlie Javice, kept running Frank after it became part of JPMorgan, but in November 2022 JPMorgan fired her, and now she and JPMorgan are suing each other. Here is Javice’s lawsuit against JPMorgan, which basically demands that the bank pay her legal fees; her lawyer is Alex Spiro, who is also Elon Musk’s lawyer, so I assume he’s expensive. Here is JPMorgan’s lawsuit against Javice, which accuses her of fraud: The gist of it is that JPMorgan now says that Frank’s email list, which it paid $175 million for, was fake.
One thing that the two lawsuits agree on is that, when JPMorgan took over Frank, its first order of business was to spam Frank’s customers with JPMorgan marketing. Here’s how JPMorgan puts it:
In January 2022, after JPMC acquired Frank, JPMC began work on a marketing campaign to test the quality of Frank’s customer account list and the receptiveness of these customers to JPMC’s products and services. To facilitate this marketing campaign, JPMC asked Javice and [Frank Chief Growth Officer Olivier] Amar to provide Frank’s user list so that JPMC could send the marketing test by email. …
JPMC reached out via email to a random sample of the list Frank provided – approximately 400,000 purported customers of Frank – with offers to open Chase checking or savings accounts. Of those 400,000, only 103 even clicked through to Frank’s website.
As an email list proprietor, I can say: not a great click rate. Here’s Javice’s version:
Chase undermined Frank’s value by pursuing poorly conceived business plans focused on monetizing student FAFSA® data and conducting direct marketing campaigns aimed at Frank’s historical customers. The proposed business plans disregarded the regulatory environment in which the financial aid platform operated, failed to capitalize on Ms. Javice’s past successes, and discounted the very skills for which JPMorgan Bank hired her. More specifically, the new team focused primarily on mining the personal information of Frank’s legacy customers to blast them with marketing emails promoting consumer financial products, including credit cards and personal loans.
In Javice’s story, she objected to JPMorgan’s efforts to market to her customers, for regulatory and, one assumes, aesthetic reasons; JPMorgan retaliated by subjecting her “to overzealous internal investigations and fishing expeditions” and eventually firing her.
JPMorgan’s story is considerably more interesting. In its story, the 0.026% click rate on the test email was evidence that Javice’s email list was not what JPMorgan had hoped for. So it “initiated a comprehensive investigation into Frank and the Merger,” mostly by reading through Javice’s old emails, which are now on JPMorgan’s servers.[1] Oh boy did that turn up some good stuff!
During due diligence for the merger, Javice told JPMorgan that Frank had 4.25 million users. “Users,” to JPMorgan, seems to have meant something close to “people we can send emails to”:
At an initial July 2021 meeting, Javice told JPMC that Frank had significant engagement with college-aged students, a market segment that JPMC wanted to grow. Javice stated that Frank had 4.25 million users, expressly defining a “user” as an individual who created a Frank account by entering a first name, last name, email, and phone number on Frank’s website. …
Based on the July 21 meeting and the data room materials, JPMC confirmed Frank’s definition of its customers base, namely, customers are users who created a Frank account. Thereafter, as part of due diligence on Javice’s 4.265 million customer account claim, JPMC made an unambiguous request to Javice for a list of Frank’s customer accounts that included important data, such as first names, last names, dates of birth, phone numbers, mailing addresses, and email addresses. …
Specifically, JPMC sought to confirm its thesis that Frank’s acquisition of 4.265 million customer accounts demonstrated that Frank had created momentum, growth, and scale by developing meaningful relationships with millions of students. That momentum, growth, and scale, JPMC believed, indicated that Frank was a proven acquisition machine for college-aged students and would continue – and even increase – its customer account base once Frank merged with and into JPMC. If Frank’s customer base existed, JPMC could proceed with the deal.
But, JPMorgan now says, Frank only really had about 300,000 customer accounts. So Javice allegedly asked a Frank engineer to make up a fake list. It did not go great:
She sent Frank’s Director of Engineering an email with a link to an article entitled “Generating Tabular Synthetic Data Using GANs.” The article notes that “[t]he goal is to generate synthetic data that is similar to the actual data in terms of statistics and demographics.” The article suggests that “it[’]s fairly simpl[e] to use GANs to generate synthetic data where the actual data is sensitive in nature and can’t be shared publicly.”
Javice, Amar, and the Director of Engineering then had a Zoom meeting during which Javice and Amar asked the Director of Engineering to help them create a synthetic list of customer data. She asked the Director of Engineering if he could help her take a known set of FAFSA application data and use it to artificially augment a much larger set of anonymous data that her systems had collected over time. The Director of Engineering questioned whether creating and using such a data set was legal, but Javice tried to assure the engineer by claiming that this was perfectly acceptable in an investment situation and she did not believe that anyone would end up in an “orange jumpsuit” over this project.
The Director of Engineering was not persuaded and told Javice and Amar that he would not perform the task and only would send them the file containing Frank’s actual users, which amounted to approximately 293,000 individuals at that time.
Aieee, this is not legal advice, but if your boss is prone to using the phrase “orange jumpsuit” you should quit! And probably go claim your whistle-blower reward while you’re at it. Anyway Javice then allegedly “sought help from external sources”:
Javice then turned to a data science professor at a New York City area college (the “Data Science Professor”) who advertised his “creative solutions” to data problems. Javice provided the Data Science Professor a list of 293,192 individuals who had started or submitted a FAFSA application through Frank. She then directed the Data Science Professor to use “synthetic data” techniques to create 4.265 million customer names, email addresses, birthdays, and other personal information based on the list Javice supplied.
The professor allegedly created the list, with lots of hilarious guidance along the way that JPMorgan now has:
Regarding creating physical addresses, the Data Science Professor wrote to Javice, “I can’t seem to find addresses in my raw files . . . . Should I attempt to fabricate them?” Javice responded “I just wouldn’t want the street to not exist in the state.” Later, the Data Science Professor determined that “‘real addresses’ may not be doable,” and Javice responded “If we can’t do real addresses what[’]s the best we can do for that?” …
Javice was particularly concerned with the email addresses, asking the Data Science Professor “will the fake emails look real with an eye check or better to use unique ID?” He responded “[t]hey will look fake,” at which point Javice agreed to use a “unique ID” instead.
Eventually the list was done and the professor sent Frank an invoice for $13,300, listing his hours devoted to tasks like “college major generation.” This was not the invoice Javice wanted, so:
In response to the initial invoice, Javice demanded that he remove all the details admitting to how they had created fake customers – and added a $4,700 bonus. In an email to the Data Science Professor at 12:39 p.m. on August 5, 2021, Javice wrote: “send the invoice back at $18k and just one line item for data analysis.” In total, Javice paid the Data Science Professor over $800 per hour for his work creating the Fake Customer List, which is 270% of his usual hourly rate.
The Data Science Professor provided Javice the revised invoice via email seven minutes later at 12:46 p.m., commenting “Wow. Thank you. Here is the new invoice.”
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Yeah I mean a general lesson here is that you want to be in the sort of business that sends one-line invoices, not the sort of business that bills by the sixth of the hour.[2]
This basically worked: Frank sent its list of 4,265,085 customers to JPMorgan’s third-party due diligence consultant,[3] the consultant okayed it, JPMorgan was satisfied and they signed the merger agreement. But you can see how this would be a problem for Frank in the medium term: It had a list of 4 million customers with fake email addresses, and JPMorgan was basically buying it so it could send emails to that list. If the email addresses were all fake, JPMorgan would notice immediately. So Frank allegedly went out and bought an email list:
At the exact same time Javice was working with the Data Science Professor on the Fake Customer List, Amar separately reached out to ASL Marketing, Inc. (“ASL”), a marketing firm that purports to have “the most comprehensive, accurate and responsive data of high school students, college students and young adults available anywhere.” Amar caused Frank to purchase a list of 4.5 million students from ASL for a cost of $105,000 (the “ASL List”) on the same day Javice transferred the Fake Customer List to the third-party vendor for validation. ...
Amar and Javice would have had no reason to buy a list of 4.5 million college students if Frank actually had the number of customer accounts that Javice represented to JPMC and provided to Acxiom.
The ASL list had about 4.5 million names, but only about 2 million of them had email addresses, so Javice allegedly went to another company to try to buy the relevant email addresses:
Javice again engaged the Data Science Professor to work with another third-party vendor, Enformion, LLC (“Enformion”), to obtain additional email addresses to add-on to the individuals in the ASL List. …
After receiving the data, Enformion ran the ASL List through its databases in an attempt to find matching additional data, including email addresses. Enformion then provided those matches to the Data Science Professor.
Upon information and belief, Javice and the Data Science Professor’s first request to Enformion was to provide email addresses based on the existing full names and addresses, but that provided a limited number of matches. Upon information and belief, Javice decided to instruct Enformion to match against just last names and addresses, which could generate email addresses of siblings, parents, and other family members of the individual on the ASL List, even if the email affiliated with the exact individual on the ASL List could not be found.
Ultimately, Javice and the Data Science Professor obtained at least one email address for approximately 1.9 million of the 4.5 million individuals on the ASL List from Enformion.
Frank paid Enformion $70,000 for this. So, in essence, it paid a total of $175,000 for a list of email addresses, and then sold that list to JPMorgan for $175 million, for a perfect 99,900% return on its investment. What an arbitrage! The intuition is that a list of 4 million email addresses with whom you have a warm customer relationship is worth roughly 1,000 times as much as a list of 4 million random email addresses that you scraped up from the dregs of the internet. Javice allegedly scraped up these addresses from the dregs of the internet, dressed them up in Frank’s warm customer relationships, and sold them to JPMorgan at a 1,000x markup. Incredible stuff.[4]
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No, don't reply like this, please do another wall of unhinged rant please.
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https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:xiCgOpyi9wgJ:https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2023-01-12/jpmorgan-says-frank-was-fraud&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
lol
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Just rounding up
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Her business acumen is on par with Trump's.
Krayon sexually assaulted his sister.
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I’M ALWAYS BAFFLED THAT PEOPLE WHO PULL THIS OFF STAY IN THE US. WHY WOULDN’T YOU IMMEDIATELY LEAVE THE COUNTRY?
At any rate white extinction is long overdue
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Even better, she stayed with JP Morgan
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How do these people keep thinking they're going to get away with stuff like this?
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The startup name is Frank. I thought they were talking about a person for half the article. No fricking wonder your brand didn't grow.
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fricking lol
how do you spend that much buying a company without actually checking anything out?
she shouldn't be arrested for it. it's not her fault they were r-slurred!
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teenage mutant turtles?
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Technology, Media, and Telecom
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I literally don't consider scamming JPMorgan to be a crime. Not guilty and gigabased.
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Elizabeth Holmes phenotype
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God Kong_Sprpr is such a straggot, Kong_Sprpr keep reading this and the image in Kong_Sprpr's head is a woman innocently Mr. Beaning her way into these situation..
trans lives matter
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Snapshots:
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https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/19/opinion/fafsa-college-financial-aid.html:
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saw this earlier in my news feed
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Ugly.
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Wow she is aggressively Jewish looking.
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