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All of my friends at uni would just stare blank-eyed whenever I spoke of anything programming related. My coworkers (and this is at a FAANG) don't give a f.ck and are just here for the easy paycheck. In general, very few care about programming. Sad.
Even when I speak with my father, he always has the "whatever gets the job done" boomer attitude and shuts down discussion.
Jesus Christ.
"I talk to ChatGPT sometimes"
https://lobste.rs/s/ih3cwj/where_do_you_discuss_computer_related#c_nsf4sc
Reminds of that boomer webm about videogames & groomercord:
https://lobste.rs/s/ih3cwj/where_do_you_discuss_computer_related#c_hr4maw
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I have met “engineers” who literally
cannot take the derivative of a polynomial function.
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You will never have to do anything close to this in most software jobs. At least complain about fizzbuzz or whatever.
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I did no such thing.
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imma frickin mechanic, you think 
I have to be able to take derivatives? No dawg. I didn’t mention it to imply 
it was part of your job, you fricking 
midwit, I mentioned it to demonstrate that someone who can’t is a fricking 
r-slur.
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It's a shitty filter. Might as well ask who their favorite classical composer is too.
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A lot of the worst people sound like fart huffing hipsters or /g/ r-slurs who took the memes seriously.
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"differentiating polynomials" reeks of "badass zoomer who just graduated from a no-name university" tbh
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Estrogen and /g/ have ruined a generation of codecels.
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I program and do not know how ti do any of that. I probably gram better than you, (og lisp hacking frick yo momma gay nugga)
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Nerds mad
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Real math is just logic. Everything else is just peepee suck off contests. The issue is that the design of achool can't have real maths because it woild literally mean fialing most pwople so instea dthey slop frick everyone with rote memorization everyone can do, even tardos and women. If you understand basic arithmetic you can understand all math. I am assuming you actually are not mentally challenged though i.e. your iq isnt beloe 150.
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Computers are naturally imperative state machines. Cope. Sneed. Dilate.
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Dont even know wgat poibt u tryibg tp prove fat
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Irrelevant. Please list on your resume how many peepees you have inhaled in the last 24 months.
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This shows a complete lack of ambition. You will be stuck as an entry level coder for the next 10 years.
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Is that gonna make me more money
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Just use auto-diff, 4head.
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Man I’m also at a FAANG and it seems like so many engineers do virtually no coding now. The new team I just joined has basically deployed an entire service only through config files. It seems mind numbingly tedious. If I don’t get some interesting work soon I’m probably going to leave.
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Yet they obsess over leetcode as a benchmark for competency.
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lol it's just cause they legally can't give iq tests.
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leetcode is better than iq tests because it directly tests coding ability?? there exist high iq people who are shit at coding and can't improve, just like there are high iq people who are shit writers or musicians and can't improve. literal r-slur.
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Leetcode is a horrible screener if you care about technical ability. It screens for people who spend all their time to memorize answers to canned algorithmic problems unimpeded by drains on their attention such as building working software or having any clue at all how the tooling works. It specifically gets you the kind of people who are shit at building software and can't improve. The correct answer to an algorithmic puzzle at a company interview is "what the frick does this have to do with the problem domain" or "quicksort is in the standard library, dumbass".
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There were posts on Blind and Stackexchange about strategies to not expose during an interview that you memorized the leetcode question.
It's polluted the ops side of tech now and filtering out actual ops guys in favor of the same cookie cutter coders who pull ops boilerplate.
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But IQ tests are worse in every way by that standard. If 'balance a binary tree' is irrelevant, how can 'which of these images is most like the other three images' relevant? If companies used IQ tests people would memorize all the solutions to the image puzzle problems. It's still better than IQ tests.
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No, you can trivially randomise or autogenerate IQ tests.
They're very much relevant. If they weren't relevant people wouldn't spend so much time pooping on them hilighting how irrelevant they are.
The only problem with them is that they hilight stuff that goes against the current orthodoxy, namely that intelligence is heritable, which has obvious implications.
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you can practice for autogenerated iq tests because the auto-generated tests will all be similar. the computer isn't a supergenius that can come up with entirely novel questions. there'll be a certain library of types of tests, and you can simply practice all of them. there would be iq test practice sites just like leetcode. of course.
fifth grade reading level. I agree IQ tests are relevant. they are just less relevant than subject-matter tests. Like leetcode. Leetcode involves programming and is narrowly scoped. There are also a wide variety of leetcode-style problems of varying difficulty, you don't need to use the same 50 easy ones - see any competitive programming ite.
How do IQ tests do this any more than subjectmatter tests?
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I mean, if I was hiring, I'd do both.
I also don't think that IQ tests are illegal, are they, for hiring in the US? That sounds like one of those reddity rumours.
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I feel like internally at FAANG nobody cares about leetcode. You care about it to get in, then never think about it till your next job hunt
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Because low-level algorithm design is not relevant to 99% of FAANG work which is simply gluing parts together.
The actual hard code part is done by some little weird cadre of library designers who you never see and who never have to interview because there's probably only about 5000 of them in the world and they all know each other from some obscure mailing list.
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I think its cope that libraries are hard too. It's all just CRUD in different forms
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It's more that libraries are where the heavy lifting is done, the most purely mathematical and theoretical stuff, algorithms, math, you know...
Like, most people who dabble in 'machine learning' are just gluing PyTorch features together. All the hard work is in the library. Most of what the dabblers are doing is just implementation.
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It’s better than any other industry. At least you can study for it.
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I'm a new grad writing shitty java microservices
and poking around yaml configs. It's a race between killing myself and getting PIPed.
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Just find the most egregious performance bottleneck in your product and fix it.
I got promoted to running my own projects immediately after doing that and all I did was google the problem (after identifying it)
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Yeah I know how you feel
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I love Infrastructure as Code
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AI and Stable Diffusion have been awful for people who want to discuss tech. Dumb AI shit is constantly spammed by r-slurs who want to shill their doomerism, schizo nonsense, or political takes. Stable Diffusion has coomers everywhere, it's awful.
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Most of those AI spaces are unusable for the same reason. People post fried garbo from online services and attention whore schizos drown out technical discussion of the tech.
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Knowing about 4chan shit doesn't make your
opinions suddenly relevant
I'm increasingly coming to the opinion the being nice to "well written" nerd HN-tier opinions is the worst cancer on society
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Please see attached my 5,000 word essay on why females are inferior and should felate me for my superior Typescript knowledge. I'm here to have a civil discussion on the virtues of my peepee.
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Literally reminds me of the thread I posted today
https://rdrama.net/h/slackernews/post/190747/free-coding-learning-resource/4656331#context
Still fricking seething about it.
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Hey thanks!
I just want to make my own website and self host a lot of cool stuff off a VPS.
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Awesome, this stuff is for you.
HTML, CSS, and JS.
Also check this out, it can help you get started on basics
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That looks like a decent guide, however I highly recommend learning to follow official documentation for services and once you have spent some time doing the conventional “install to the running OS” method, I’d implore you to experiment with Docker.
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I usually just ctlr+f any docs with whatever is giving me grief. Only failed me sometimes
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Yeah knowing how to bend searches and Google to your will is a super useful skill
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Not off the top of my head. I'm not good at it either lol
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Dude needs to be a wagie for a couple years and see how bad programming is.
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Not even that, plenty of people here just do hobbyist stuff.
Not trying to be a "learn to code" career changer.
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correct
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This was a chronic issue at the universities I went to over a decade ago. Clemson wasn't as bad but I was still shocked no one had side projects and they were just career maxxing.
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My side project is to dethrone ticketmaster come join me
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I have an idea. Ticketmaster except the tickets are on a blockchain and it uses AI for perfect price discrimination.
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We already have perfect price discrimination it's called supply and demand
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NGMI
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Swifties pay thousands for concert tickets while babushkas having loving children who give them tickets for free to go watch together
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Based and Hayekpilled
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let's kill them
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Never ask an AI expert to calculate the backward pass of a simple FFNN.
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Based technophobia
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Fiscally Left
Socially Right
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I literally have no peers it's terrible. Maybe I'll go to a kubernetes convention and find some other masochists
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Maybe because you're neurodivergent and insufferable?
Go back to the basement sweaty, the project manager will call you if they want you to talk to the client (they won't).
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Is there anything novel in those forums? It looks like a mirror of hacker news except in reddit style.
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lobsters has plenty of interesting technical posts and it's more focused on the process/craft of actually programming than HN is, which focuses on tech in general
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Post the Reddit shake up it’s been getting wayyy more traffic. I’m seeing posts break 30 comments which was unheard of.
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Snapshots:
archive.org
ghostarchive.org
archive.ph (click to archive)
f.ck:
archive.org
ghostarchive.org
archive.ph (click to archive)
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I jail broke my psp in high school what would you like to talk about OP?
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actual blackhat forums are full of shills trying to sell their shitty hacks.
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blackhat forums are like one or two professionals in a room full of skids /g/ is and will always be tech support central. Nobody is building a LLM on /g/ they're consuming it
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A lot of the technical talk is relegated to "private" groomercords and signal group chats now.
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Idk dude cybersecurity is so full of pseuds and egos.
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