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HashiCorp adopts Business Source License; Seethe abounds (for good reason) :marseybeanangry:

https://www.hashicorp.com/blog/hashicorp-adopts-business-source-license

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If they think we'll go crawling back to their 100x more expensive 6-7 figure Terraform Enterprise garbage just because we can't use spacelift anymore, then I'll show them the team of engineers we can hire for the same dollars to move the whole stack to pure pulumi or crossplane or the various CDKs

Wtf is going on. I've never heard of any of these random names or Hashicorp. I must dismiss this as webshittery. sry not sry

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There has been a movement the past several-ish years to use X-aaS products instead of hiring competent engineers. Its created a situation where incompetent people who have no experience with deployment, CICD, Linux, and other concepts study an O'Reilly book about a commercial offering to pass the interview. You end up with teams of guys who only know expensive commercial "solutions" and are just YAML monkeys making $150k/yr. They gatekeep hard and are unable to spot competent engineers because the new way is just to pay thousands per month on a "solution" that does all the work.

Even one competent engineer can save the company a lot of money keeping it simple but we are entering a competency crisis with layers of software on top of one another to mask the complications.

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Even one competent engineer can save the company a lot of money keeping it simple but we are entering a competency crisis with layers of software on top of one another to mask the complications.

That's the impression I get from all this stuff, it's bullshit buzzword bingo all the way down. Can't stand it.

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You have to know the different systems if they ask during an interview. Some don't like the idea that you can learn them easily.

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:marseyconfused#:

What do you have against IaC?


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I'm talking about people who only know something like ArgoCD and don't actually know how any of the pipelines actually work.

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Basically the guys at hashicorp made a super special binary that turns YAML into shell commands, and everyone wrote plugins for it because its open source.

Problem is, literally everything youd use it to do requires a plugin and you have to read the docs to figure out how the plugin interacts with whatever.

So it's barely better than just using the cowtools supplied by your cloud provider, like aws cloudformation etc

I think its one advantage is that it was early on the scene. If it stops being free it vecomes a complete joke

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So it's barely better than just using the cowtools supplied by your cloud provider, like aws cloudformation etc

Its a lot better because you can use one program/platform for multiple clouds and aren't locked into one provider except for terraform. There are other clouds/services that don't offer their own deployment method so a community/official plugin makes support possible. It's similar to ansible galaxy. Cloudformation is also a mess to use in comparison.

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It's just ok. There are zero people who need to deploy to five clouds and have only one day to write the deploy script

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But the people interviewing me ask about multicloud and hate "scripts' :marseycry:

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I'm confused by you guys against IaC?


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Btw a shell script you run with a github action counts as IaC

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It's good but not worth paying for

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Nah, it's mostly infrastructure as Code.

I believe Spacelift and Pulumi are both Terraform forks and Crossplane is a Terraform-style tool for AWS.


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