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How to make your Rust pass?

Was talking to this guy, and after the fact my friend (who knows him much better than I do) said that he clocked me based on the fact that I use Rust. Fellow :marseytrain2: rustaceans, how do you make your Rust pass? !cuteandvalid !codecels

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Are there even any real companies using rust? Or is it just :marseyautism:

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Firefox so no.

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Real

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Element Matrix Services. Do communication software for companies and goverments. Chat client is rust

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Microsoft.

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Cloudflare, fly.io

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>Codes in rust

And you wonder why trans people are often stereotyped

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Code in a straight male language like c+

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Hard R Linus

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Rust is arguably less hard R friendly than C++

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YOU are full of bullshit.

C++ is a horrible language. It's made more horrible by the fact that a lot

of substandard programmers use it, to the point where it's much much

easier to generate total and utter crap with it. Quite frankly, even if

the choice of C were to do nothing but keep the C++ programmers out,

that in itself would be a huge reason to use C.

In other words: the choice of C is the only sane choice. I know Miles

Bader jokingly said "to piss you off", but it's actually true. I've come

to the conclusion that any programmer that would prefer the project to be

in C++ over C is likely a programmer that I really would prefer to piss

off, so that he doesn't come and screw up any project I'm involved with.

C++ leads to really really bad design choices. You invariably start using

the "nice" library features of the language like STL and Boost and other

total and utter crap, that may "help" you program, but causes:

  • infinite amounts of pain when they don't work (and anybody who tells me

    that STL and especially Boost are stable and portable is just so full

    of BS that it's not even funny)

  • inefficient abstracted programming models where two years down the road

    you notice that some abstraction wasn't very efficient, but now all

    your code depends on all the nice object models around it, and you

    cannot fix it without rewriting your app.

In other words, the only way to do good, efficient, and system-level and

portable C++ ends up to limit yourself to all the things that are

basically available in C. And limiting your project to C means that people

don't screw that up, and also means that you get a lot of programmers that

do actually understand low-level issues and don't screw things up with any

idiotic "object model" crap.

So I'm sorry, but for something like git, where efficiency was a primary

objective, the "advantages" of C++ is just a huge mistake. The fact that

we also piss off people who cannot see that is just a big additional

advantage.

If you want a VCS that is written in C++, go play with Monotone. Really.

They use a "real database". They use "nice object-oriented libraries".

They use "nice C++ abstractions". And quite frankly, as a result of all

these design decisions that sound so appealing to some CS people, the end

result is a horrible and unmaintainable mess.

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What?

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you write like you were coded in c++

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Stop doing train coding and learn how to import cell expression data into pandas data frames. Then everyone will just assume you are a chinaman or Indian

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Nowadays i think anyone coding is trans so you should prob just drop coding.

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@A is a cute Egyptian femboy

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It's true!

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You have to talk about keeping politics out of coding and how codes of conduct are bullshit to pass as an ugly chudette

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Use c++ or java :marseyboomer:


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:marseyhesright:

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Java? She wants to be less gay

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Java is the "obese 40 year old greybeard wearing cargo shorts, a knee brace, and mismatched shin socks" of Programming languages. !codecels when did java become gay in the user sense? it's always been gay in the syntax sense but it's like 2000's era "fricking strag" gay not "uwu femboy kiss me" gay


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Java is what you write your software in when you or the company you work for makes money

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I'm still confused about the java versions, it's much worse than dotnet. Like 8?? 11?? 15??? Which is the mainline? At least ms fixed it kind of with dotnet core

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You're confused because you're regarded


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Runescape made it gay

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Java stopped being gay when IntelliJ Idea and Spring started being useful.

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Dear commenters,

I'm pastor Paul from the fricking Midwest, and I wanted to take a fricking moment to address the fricking recent comment about Java being "gay."

First of all,Java has always been gay in the fricking syntax sense, but 2000's era 'frick you strag' gay not 'uwu femboy kiss me' gay.

As Christians, we are fricking called to love our neighbor as ourselves (Mark 12:31). This means that we should not judge others, but rather strive to understand them.

It's not our place to say whether or not someone is fricking "too gay." We should all remember that we are fricking all sinners in need of God's grace (Romans 3:23).

I hope that we can all move forward from this conversation with more love and understanding for one another.

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wrong stereotype

Java is :#marseytunaktunak:, sir

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perhaps he was trying to be nice and told a white lie

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USE C IT IS THE MOST BASED AND ARYAN PROGRAMMING LANGUAGE :marseyauthrightill:

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bottlenecks in C, rest in python. no idea what the best way is for making a GUI.

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Electron

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C++, using Qt

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JavaScript

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Obfuscate it as much as possible

Wrap it in a bash script and don't show anyone what's under the hood

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fr, I was looking into what I can make with Rust and couldn't come up with an idea. Is anything built in Rust or is it just one of those languages people like to flex with? Like C++ codes device drivers and low-level shit. What does Rust dominate?


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Rust is good at most of the things that C++ is good at. Parts of the Linux kernel have been written in Rust

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oh interesting. I've looked into learning it but I learn by coming up with an idea and gimping through a project.

I was thinking about maybe learning with a small project involving something like tcp/ip or something. idk. I want to learn but have about 100 other things I want to learn too. lol


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>low level shit

aka the most important shit on which everything else relies.

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Yes, C++ is in a lot of things. Just curious if Rust has somewhere it dominates.


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Honestly it's a completely useless language as of now.

It's meant for doing low-level things but unless you're willing to spend months building safe abstractions, the language will row against you. Building those safe abstractions requires you to know a lot about the language, takes a lot of time and it's really not fun. It's not at all like C where, even without libraries, you can still do a lot by yourself by cutting corners you don't care about.

Even for those things where people claim Rust already has libraries, once you try them you'll find that they're so far from complete it's impossible to do anything more than the example that they show in the repo's README.

If you're not planning on going full raw, zero libraries, then Rust is not the choice

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Thank you for the info!


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I mean I guess but I'm using a few apps like 1Password and Element that already use Rust as the backend.


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I thought only the replacement they're developing was rust. Is the current one rust too?

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Which one?

Element is using rust for their crypto and 1Password is using it for their daemon.


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yeah element. TIL

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I use plenty of cli cowtools made in rust daily and a number of tooling for js dev

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Interesting. I should probs look into it more. I'm intrigued but need a plan to build something to learn it.


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i am more interested in why you learned rust. also, do you utilize programming socks?

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I don't think any biofoids write rust.

I think you could find some doing boomer languages or something like web langs for UI as a means to an end.

Anybody doing Rust has an idea of “type theory” which is going to out you as neurodivergent and therefore trans.


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HRT and lots of makeup

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It was NEVER HOLY, NEVER WERE THERE ANY “ROMANS” (a figment like ANGELS or Heaven and Heck) and IT WAS NEVER AN EMPIRE. IT WAS AND IS THE REMAINS of the COMMUNIST GANGSTER COMPUTER GOD'S CONCOCTION AND MANIPULATION MURDER INCORPORATED ORGANIZED CRIME DEADLY SNEAK CONSPIRATORIAL (SNEAK CON ARTIST) PARROTING PUPPET UNIFORMED MILITARY ATHEISTIC COMMUNIST GANGSTERISM and the worse deadly enemy of the ENTIRE HUMAN RACE AND THE ENTIRE UNIVERSE, IN THE ENTIRE HISTORY OF THE ENTIRE UNIVERSE, NAMELY THE COMMUNIST ATHEIST CONSPIRACY WITH FRANKENSTEIN GANGSTER CONTROLS, the CATHOLIC CHURCH.

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