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Slackers of reddit: What are aspiring Codecels supposed to do?

Hello, I am soliciting career advice :marseywave:. I went to college but I dropped out :marseygigaretard:. After working some odd jobs :marseymcwagie:, I got a bunch of IT certifications during COVID and started working in help desk. After working there for a while, I gravitated towards making scripts in python/powershell to automate repetitive tasks. I decided that I liked developing scripts better than resetting an office boomers PC, so I'm thinking of improving my skills in coding so that I can move from help desk into a different tech field. Additionally, I would also like to use the skills to do personal projects. To help with that, I'm thinking of going back to college to grind out the remaining credits I would need for a computer science degree, since I feel like the degree would financially benefit me no matter which field I go to. However, I'm not sure if finishing the computer science degree would be optimal, since it would require money and time to finish. Is this the best option for me or are there other ways to break into development/ tech. I know bootcamps are an option but I'm not necessarily interested in developing websites. Any advice would be good. Thanks!

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For traditional white collar megacorp coding jobs a CS (or related) degree is really helpful. It isn't strictly necessary at all companies (especially smaller ones) if you can otherwise demonstrate you know what you're doing but it helps a lot in getting your resume looked at.

Boot camps are close to worthless.

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Good to know. I'm definitely not proficient enough in coding to stand out without a degree right now.

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Depending on how your finances are and how much you have left in the degree having one will absolutely give you the ability for more conventional job positions.

It's not strictly necessary if you're able to network effectively though.


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Finishing the degree will take at least a couple of years, but it won't be prohibitively expensive. I'm just not sure if I'm ready to commit to full time school since it would probably mean giving up my current position. However, I could probably manage.

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A degree is a pretty good thing to have even if the skills in it end up being next to worthless

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Yeah if you're good with school and it will only take a couple years I'd say it's worth it.


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You could transition (:marseytrans2:) into cybersecurity fairly easily. IDK how useful/valued certifications actually are but you could probably get the CompTIA A+ right now, study a bit for Network+ and Security+ and have a pretty solid foot in the door for security/sysadmin positions. Both of which would probably be a huge pay raise and definitely be more interesting.

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I have those certs already, that's how I got my current position. Cybersecurity could be good, but I kind of want to learn to code to make small gaems. :marseysoyswitch:

Plus, from what I've seen, Cybersecurity makes you progress from being something cool like a pen-tester, to what is basically a digital OSHA Inspector. At least it pays well.

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Fair, it depends a lot on the position itself. I've been working on getting the CEH and it seems like most cybersecurity positions are within a company on the defense hardening infrastructure and whatnot, but I don't even have the experience to take the certification test yet so I probably shouldn't be giving you advice.

Within cybersecurity you can be cucked into being an IT-cel where all your work is over some cloud platform or using third party cowtools or more on the low-level end, which is very fetch. I've been scripting and writing C in my current position for a while and it's definitely more interesting than using silicon-valley GUIs. Also learning C will help a lot with games, trying to use Vulkan/OpenGL is a lot of work but you really learn a ton about the base hardware and it's very easy to transfer C knowledge to C# for Unity or whatever Unreal uses.

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As far as epic gaming, I'd keep that as a hobby but if you want to do proper programming having hobby gaming projects is absolutely valid.


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If you're unironically good at scripting sysadmin is your next upward step from IT. You could prolly convince a govt entity to hire you. unless :marseyunless: you want to actually :marseyakshually: program :marseyyarn:

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I mostly do scripting to do repetitive tasks like changing the settings file of an application. Being a sysadmin could be lucrative, but I'm not sure if it's for me.

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Any reason why not? Not interested :marseyschizoexcited: in managerial type positions?

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As of right now, no. I'm more interested in learning new stuff.

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And if you want to program you might as well go to a bootcamp, anything you'll be paid to write will either be web client apps or backend services.

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Pretty much.

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The largest differentiator you can have against other junior applicants is having projects under your belt. It shows that 1. you have drive to complete something that has a purpose and 2. you enjoy programming. So many tards don't do this and think a little jeetcode and a couple CS classes is enough to make them stand out.

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I have a friend who submits bugfixes upstream to a Google-adjecent project but doesn't think he'd enjoy codecel maxxing for a job lmao.


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My point is that it's not a matter of actually enjoying it, only that you deceive employers to think you enjoy it.

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Yeah I just think my friend is r-slurred


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I'm not indian though :marseypajeetitsover:

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