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Bongistan "Online Safety Bill" comes into effect

https://old.reddit.com/r/unitedkingdom/comments/17gw9v2/the_uks_controversial_online_safety_bill_finally

This legislation allows regulators to demand that encrypted platforms like WhatsApp and Signal implement backdoors to scan for CP. Redditors aren't happy about that, naturally.

More importantly, platforms will also need to show they are committed to removing content promoting or facilitating suicide or self-harm.

I'll miss you guys :marseybonggenocide:

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They don't "have to" do anything. They'll just stop being E2E.

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And not take an opportunity to grandstand?


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Grandstand to who? The people who share your outlook on privacy are a tiny irrelevant minority.

If I had a penny every time I have to remind dramatards and techcels of this.... Normies exist and outnumber you 100:1.

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Apple alone has been pushing a privacy and security angle for advertising for years now.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple–FBI_encryption_dispute

They are happy to use the opportunity to withdrawal services from the UK if it means they can flaunt their principles. https://www.theverge.com/2023/6/27/23775356/apple-online-safety-bill-statement-encrypted-messaging-apps-e2ee-end-to-end


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Normies buy Apple because peer pressure and shiny :soyjakfront: not because they give a shit about privacy. Apple literally just released a new $1000 phone that's exactly the same as the previous, except it's titanium!! :soyjakfront: :soyjakfront:

Come the f on, read the market.

They are happy to use the opportunity to withdrawal services from the UK if it means they can flaunt their principles.

Bet lmao. Delusional.

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Normies buy Apple because peer pressure and shiny not because they give a shit about privacy

How many normies have you talked with? Plenty of people I've spoken to don't like the creepy shit going on with big tech - especially once they have children.

I can see you have a dim view of other people but being cynical isn't synonymous with being correct.

Apple literally just released a new $1000 phone that's exactly the same as the previous, except it's titanium!

That's how a mature market works. Do you think they stop making fridges until there's some breakthrough in fridge technology?

No, everyone buys a fridge on their own cycle - just like phones in 2023.

Delusional

They told the FBI to F off when it came to breaking the encryption of iPhone devices. That's the US government too, not some has been country.


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How many normies have you talked with? Plenty of people I've spoken to don't like the creepy shit going on with big tech - especially once they have children.

You're a highly neurodivergent dramatard, even by rdrama standards. Not a single person you talk to is a normie. You severely underestimate how dumb "average" is.

That's how a mature market works. Do you think they stop making fridges until there's some breakthrough in fridge technology?

https://www.apple.com/iphone-15

"Privacy" mentioned once in small font lmao. Your claim would hold more weight if Apple actually put Privacy front and center as a selling point in their marketing material.

They told the FBI to F off when it came to breaking the encryption of iPhone devices. That's the US government too, not some has been country.

There was no cost to doing so. You think the U.S. is going to stop a trillion dollar U.S. company from doing business, just because some r-slurred pigs made some r-slurred requests?

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You're a highly neurodivergent dramatard, even by rdrama standards. Not a single person you talk to is a normie. You severely underestimate how dumb "average" is.

I fully agree normies don't understand technology. It's part of my thesis most people making fun of Zoomers tech habits are operating on a faulty assumption that people before understood computers. This doesn't mean they don't get the concept of "I don't want the government having access to my messages / photos / etc"

Privacy

They've run multiple ad campaigns with this as their thesis

Recent one that was influenced by overturn of Roe v. Wade (women don't want their health data used against them).

https://www.macrumors.com/2023/05/24/apple-health-data-privacy-ad-campaign

FBI

You think Apples not willing to drop 70m people from iMessage to make a point?


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https://www.macrumors.com/2023/05/24/apple-health-data-privacy-ad-campaign

One ad on youtube barely seen by anyone

Recent one that was influenced by overturn of Roe v. Wade (women don't want their health data used against them).

Nice virtue signaling, very wise for the U.S. market.

Have you forgotten that Apple already caved to a foreign government?

"Presumably people purchase Apple devices because they believe the company when they say that ‘privacy is a fundamental human right'. What they fail to add is *except if you are Chinese"

https://www.theregister.com/2023/03/29/china_asks_apple_improve_security

I don't get why you think Apple is some "principled" outlier? Like any other Gigacorp, it's something like an emergent hivemind whose utility function is to solely make $$$. Other than $$$, it has no principles.

You think Apples not willing to drop 70m people from iMessage to make a point?

I think it's purely a cost benefit analysis based on how well they can damage control vs the loss in direct profit. Given that they've already caved once before in China with minimal fallout, I'm squarely on the side of them caving again.

Plus bongs aren't People, so who cares what Apple does to them.

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Phil Zimmerman was right

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