This legislation allows regulators to demand that encrypted platforms like WhatsApp and Signal implement backdoors to scan for CP. Redditors aren't happy about that, naturally.
More importantly, platforms will also need to show they are committed to removing content promoting or facilitating suicide or self-harm.
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Offer void in Bongland.
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For once you don't want me to kill myself. It's a good day. Have a benefactor award![](https://i.rdrama.net/i/hand.webp)
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Aww, you're in Bongland?![:marseynotes: :marseynotes:](https://i.rdrama.net/e/marseynotes.webp)
Thanks for the award! Vax me up???
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offer counting double in kalifat of Bongistan
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Well bongs, it was nice knowing you. I liked your shitposts but apparently bants are now illegal
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What the frick is their plan even after identifying these "anonymous trolls"? Last time I checked, it isn't illegal to be a silly little guy
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it will be selectively enforced against politcal disidents and used to expand their general infringment on individual rights.
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They have no plan. Every few years they pass a law like this and then puss out of actually implementing and enforcing it when large tech companies look at them and go "lmfao ur market share isn't worth the time"
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I think there are a lot of laws like that in the world. If they really wanna do something they can aka China, but most just tell the boomers 'look we blocked it' while anyone with at least minimal computer literacy reaches for the VPN
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Public doxxing
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In bongistan it is lmao
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In uk? Dude being simply offensive is a crime
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If they're promoting the heckin' wrongthink they'll be harassed by the cops and fined/imprisoned, if they're Muslims, leftists or
s then no enforcement. So basically like all our regular laws.
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Good to see that trolling is finally seen as the threat that it is, on the same level as child r*pe and terrorism![:marseywholesome: :marseywholesome:](https://i.rdrama.net/e/marseywholesome.webp)
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Tyrants hate being laughed at
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I'm listening
all right what's next
Yes we should stop th--
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Lol good catch, my mind actually skipped over deepfakes, I was sure it was about revenge porn
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Comment removed by His Majesty's Online Safety Taskforce
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Sounds like someone needs the Princess DIE-ana treatment
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Let's see how many messaging apps that promised to pull out are actually gonna do it![:marseysmug3: :marseysmug3:](https://i.rdrama.net/e/marseysmug3.webp)
Prediction:![:#0: :#0:](https://i.rdrama.net/e/0.webp)
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I think they'd just have to.
Part of the disagreement with lawmakers is they think you can have an "encryption backdoor" that only the """good guys""" can use. That's simply not how End-to-End Encryption works for Signal, WhatsApp, Telegram Secret Messages, etc.
This is equivalent to that guy passing a law mandating Pi was to be measured a poor way https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indiana_Pi_Bill
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They don't "have to" do anything. They'll just stop being E2E.
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And not take an opportunity to grandstand?
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Grandstand to who? The people who share your outlook on privacy are a tiny irrelevant minority.
If I had a penny every time I have to remind dramatards and techcels of this.... Normies exist and outnumber you 100:1.
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Apple alone has been pushing a privacy and security angle for advertising for years now.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple–FBI_encryption_dispute
They are happy to use the opportunity to withdrawal services from the UK if it means they can flaunt their principles. https://www.theverge.com/2023/6/27/23775356/apple-online-safety-bill-statement-encrypted-messaging-apps-e2ee-end-to-end
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Normies buy Apple because peer pressure and shiny
not because they give a shit about privacy. Apple literally just released a new $1000 phone that's exactly the same as the previous, except it's titanium!!
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Come the f on, read the market.
Bet lmao. Delusional.
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How many normies have you talked with? Plenty of people I've spoken to don't like the creepy shit going on with big tech - especially once they have children.
I can see you have a dim view of other people but being cynical isn't synonymous with being correct.
That's how a mature market works. Do you think they stop making fridges until there's some breakthrough in fridge technology?
No, everyone buys a fridge on their own cycle - just like phones in 2023.
They told the FBI to F off when it came to breaking the encryption of iPhone devices. That's the US government too, not some has been country.
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You're a highly neurodivergent dramatard, even by rdrama standards. Not a single person you talk to is a normie. You severely underestimate how dumb "average" is.
https://www.apple.com/iphone-15
"Privacy" mentioned once in small font lmao. Your claim would hold more weight if Apple actually put Privacy front and center as a selling point in their marketing material.
There was no cost to doing so. You think the U.S. is going to stop a trillion dollar U.S. company from doing business, just because some r-slurred pigs made some r-slurred requests?
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Phil Zimmerman was right
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I think WhatsApp will backdoor their app, they're not all that principled about E2EE. Signal might actually pull out though.
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I mean WhatsApp spent a good bit of effort adding the Signal protocol, they even added it to Facebook Messenger I believe.
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WhatsApp is the app that demands full access to your contacts before you can message anyone, right?
Completely trustworthy.
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I'm not one to trust FB but I do think them grandstanding has more value than sabotaging not only goodwill from their E2E efforts but actual code they've written.
We're talking about Bongland here too, not even the EU.
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Seriously, what possible technical limitation could there be in requiring access to all my contacts?
Try it on a phone where you haven't installed WhatsApp. Try to send out a message to someone without letting FB r*pe your friends list.
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Oh no thats just FB making their social graph better, totally unethical
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Jesse Signal must be put to death.
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Many, many messaging apps are not E2E encrypted.
I guess it's an easy way to tell if an app developer is lying. If they claim to support E2E but continue doing business in the UK after this then they're clearly full of shit.
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Which in particular? Groomercord and SMS comes to mind but a lot of the big ones now are either explicitly E2E (iMessage, WhatsApp, Signal) or support it in some way (Telegram, Matrix/Element).
Teams and Slack are clearly big and not encrypted but they're clearly business focused.
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I suppose I was mostly thinking of Groomercord and Messenger (Facebook/Meta).
I'm actually surprised iMessage does it. Wouldn't that imply that if you buy a new MBP or something, when you go to look at your messages, you can only see new messages sent after you set it up?
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"End to End Encrypted" *
*keys are stored in The Cloud(tm)
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Ah, interesting. I assume storing the keys in iCloud (which would completely defeat the purpose of E2E) is the default? I wonder what percentage of users even opt to store them on the device. I'd bet under 5%, maybe even under 1%.
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I don't believe this is true, you don't need to enable a feature.
https://support.apple.com/guide/security/secure-keychain-syncing-sec0a319b35f/web
There was controversy over backups being encrypted by Apple but that can be disabled by enabling a feature as you suggested. https://support.apple.com/guide/security/advanced-data-protection-for-icloud-sec973254c5f/web
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well, backups are enabled by default, so I was technically right
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They do a robust key syncing over iCloud. https://support.apple.com/guide/security/secure-keychain-syncing-sec0a319b35f/web
Previously your iCloud backups were encrypted by Apple (for support purposes) but you can choose to opt out of that now. https://support.apple.com/guide/security/advanced-data-protection-for-icloud-sec973254c5f/web
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IIRC: Signal already cucked out because some random politician said "Ehhhhhh. We may hypothetically not enforce that at present time"![:derpsnickering: :derpsnickering:](https://i.rdrama.net/e/derpsnickering.webp)
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Hello. I am a representative of the UK. I will need access to direct messages on this site to check for
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Please God let them outsource the csam audits to India![:marseybegging: :marseybegging:](https://i.rdrama.net/e/marseybegging.webp)
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Oye mate.
@gigachad_brony need too grab yer privates too make sure no kids been near em. Spread those legs.
Trans lives matter
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Good. I never really feel safe unless MPs are distracted trying to figure out how a regulator of 900 staff is supposed to police the entire internet. I like to hope it keeps them from molesting for a while.
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god almighty
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Finally the children of the UK will be safe.![:marseysatisfied: :marseysatisfied:](https://i.rdrama.net/e/marseysatisfied.webp)
Remember, your government knows best. If you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huddersfield_grooming_gang
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westminster_paedophile_dossier
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Savile_sexual_abuse_scandal
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-58871849
Lol, the british dont care about child abuse and all the royals are nonces
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The government r*pes kids folks, it's that simple.
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Snapshots:
undelete.pullpush.io
ghostarchive.org
archive.org
archive.ph (click to archive)
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But think of the children
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You Brit strags deserved to be gang r*ped by all those paki's you let in.
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oi m8 you got a loicense for that shitpost?![:marseybongcop: :marseybongcop:](https://i.rdrama.net/e/marseybongcop.webp)
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I thought they added some back-pedalling clause ‘were (edit: where) technically feasible'. This allows the companies to say ‘it's not and never will be technically feasible' and carry on like usual. The govt can then say ‘we did it guise' without any actual consequences
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They did, yes. It's up to OFCOM to decide if it's technically feasible.
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Darn. I thought it was up to the companies themselves. I hope OFCOM don't decide to frick things up for everyone
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Attention all britbongs
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Here's an instruction manual for killing yourself:
https://web.archive.org/web/20170608235632/https://lostallhope.com/suicide-methods
don't frick it up cute twinks
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So when are all the sites that allow discussion and promotion of train surgery getting shut down
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omg hi
@gigachad_brony!!! okay so this is like super awkward omg but basically i had to remove ur comment bc u didnt say
trans lives matter
lol. don't worry though, we like wont let you post anything that like doesnt havetrans lives matter
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