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  • JimieWhales : ITT: Carp discovers us autists have been right the whole time. :marseyautism:
  • whyareyou : LOL carp is a privacy schizo

Usually I :marseysmug2: at muh data privacy schizos but what the actual frick is this

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Facebook and Google do this. Facebook used to be notorious for tracking you offsite while logged out.

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This says even devices you've never logged in with!!!!!


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prob browser fingerprinting neighbor just use brave

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What does brave do? I was told Firefox was the best thing if ur not into tracking shit but this was a decade ago or smthgin

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i am personally a fan of firefox as it does a fantastic job of preventing cookie trackers to the point where some websites ask me to use chrome because firefox does not allow their trackers to operate.

However brave also deserves some name recognition as the devs provide a lot of protection for you as well when it comes to blocking ads, which isn't something that comes bundled with firefox (i use an extension called uBlock Origin for that)

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Is origin and no script still the gold standard?

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never used noscript but ublock is dope. My phone uses a firewall + adaway too but I don't think that's as important for browsers (although it is very important if I use an app outside of the browser)

For desktop I just use firefox+ublock and a strict firewall

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brave has an option to block fingerprinting, i think it works the same way as adblock and blacklists certain domains or cuts any trackers out of the sites you visit. i don't know in depth but im curious now lol

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How would they fingerprint a browser and tie it to your Twitter account from your phone, on a device you've never logged in on


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it says including incognito mode so prob by device info? also twitter links by default have trackers attached to them at least on mobile, so i bet if you send someone a link and they open it whether or not they're logged in it might tie that device to the one that sent the link.

anyways i recall sneedlon saying that twitter is open source so i'm sure there's some type of hint in their codebase. !codecels any input? i'm sure some privacy schizo can mess around with some different device settings and see how it changes content recommendations

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Paraphrasing for non codecels, info might be slightly off but this is the gist of it:

When you click a link and your browser takes you to the other side, the link itself can have info from the place you are coming from to give to the other side of where you are going to. This is evident when you look at the link, each piece of info will follow a ? and it's separated out by a &. So like youtube,com/?vid=12345&time=50s but if for example rdrama had a deal with youtube, they could send the page where the video was linked from. For example this page is post #220258 so the link could be youtube,com?vid=12345&time=50s&rdramapost=220258 Then when you land on the other side of the link, they'll know which video id to show you, where to start the vid, and which rdrama post u came from

That's one way but it's pretty obvious, the other way is letting the web browser hold onto the info. rDrama can allow i.e. twitter to set their own cookies on rDrama,net, and can share some info with twitter as well (for example username). So if this were the case, I'm here now and twitter gets to see what my rdrama username is. When I go onto twitter on the same web browser, they can just check the browser cookie to see what my rdrama username is. This links rdrama username to twitter handle.

Now say I go on another phone and log into only rdrama. Then later I go onto twitter. Since in this example rdrama gives twitter my rdrama username, and twitter had already connected my rdrama username to my twitter handle, without me even logging into twitter, twitter can assume what my twitter handle is.

So to expand even further, consider another website thay lets u log in using a gmail account. If this website shares your info with twitter it's very possible twitter has linked your gmail account to your twitter handle. You can go on a brand new device and log into that other website with your gmail, then go on twitter (without logging into twitter) and twitter will know it is you because they'd have already linked your email address to your handle.

Your IP address may have also been shared, mind you. So that would also link to your twitter.

Fortunately as far as links (from the 1st example) go, Aevann does a good job of stripping them from identifying data. As far as the other examples, although rDrama doesn't have twitter's prying eyes here, many other websites do. So it's very difficult to avoid them tracking you if you've so much as logged in once to twitter.

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we can also even do cross device linking too with geolocation data emitted from from shitty app sdk ad exchange asks and DNS logs for sale etc. to tie a device of yours with some other device that spends each night at the same latitude and longitude as yours. factory reset all you want but we know who you are.

uncle ted had no idea how quickly it would truly become too late.

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buhuhu i'm behind 7 proxies, fake gps coords + never turned on, never connected to a wifi, root firewall, new number, and all emails in a new domain. I should b good right?

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so we're just going to physically mail you that Chewy ad

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I don't know what you said, because I've seen another human naked.

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So to expand even further, consider another website thay lets u log in using a gmail account. If this website shares your info with twitter it's very possible twitter has linked your gmail account to your twitter handle

esp this, also social medias generally require an email and/or phone number. even if you deny access to contacts, twitter can still get a lot of information from your email/phone

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https://coveryourtracks.eff.org/learn :marseyreading:

white extinction is long overdue will now be part of @JimieWhales's identity profile. Gonna start getting spam from the South Africa immigration commission.

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Running this in chrome and again in brave is pretty eye opening.

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Aww they renamed panopticlick. It was such a clever name too.

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They have fancy tracking.

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Fancy tracking that's all part of a long running DARPA program to track everyone

Aricle published: Feb 4 2004

https://www.wired.com/2004/02/pentagon-kills-lifelog-project

Facebook founded: Feb 4 2004

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facebook

LifeLog was a project of the Information Processing Techniques Office of the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) of the U.S. Department of Defense (DOD). According to its bid solicitation pamphlet, it was to be "an ontology-based (sub)system that captures, stores, and makes accessible the flow of one person's experience in and interactions with the world in order to support a broad spectrum of associates/assistants and other system capabilities". The objective of the LifeLog concept was "to be able to trace the 'threads' of an individual's life in terms of events, states, and relationships", and it has the ability to "take in all of a subject's experience, from phone numbers dialed and e-mail messages viewed to every breath taken, step made and place gone".[1

https://military-history.fandom.com/wiki/DARPA_LifeLog

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Not just DARPA either. There are trillion-dollar companies whose value effectively stems from hoovering up and analysing data - the better they can identify you, the more valuable the data. Both public and private sectors have put a ton of effort into deanonymising the internet.

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Yeah probably why Darpa cancelled the project - why reinvent the wheel when private industry can do it better

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even better, because governments will just straight up buy this information, governments can foster a competitive market in which multiple companies compete for the most intrusive product, whereas a government simply spending on this project would likely be stuck with one noncompetitive solution or end up overspending on parallel development of multiple solutions.

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Javascript/code on any site or app with an ad network Twitter buys/sells with

They can fingerprint you or match login details very easily

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mopub can fingerprint this canvas :#scoot:

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If you truly support free speech on the internet, then you should want X (formerly Twitter) to succeed. If Elon doesn't get a return on investment for the 50 billion he spent, then you can kiss all that goodbye. Invisible corporate eyes monitoring all of your activity is a small price to pay for freedom. Grow up.


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I only support my free speech, everyone else can kick rocks.

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^ This is everyone else's free speech (harmful and degenerate)

:#gigachad2:

^ My free speech (beneficial to society)

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(((They))) play an inaudible sound fingerprint through your device's speakers and your logged in devices that are in earshot narc on you. A schizo told me this in a dream

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The only difference is that here they give you the choice (or at least the feeling of choice) to opt out.

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there's really nothing stopping them from just obfuscating the info held in the cookies and claiming that it is critical for the site to operate. If u just "accept all" to the cookie dialogues, at least legally, they can do whatever the heck they want.

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They can do that? :marseyshook:

Is it with cookies or fingerprinting?

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I work in setting up these systems… It's both, almost every major website you use has been doing this for years… usually it's for nothing more than user/device trust, but any company making money in advertising will use it for that too.

X is just being frank here, and thinking that it's novel or new in any way demonstrates a lot of ignorance

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thinking that it's novel or new in any way demonstrates a lot of ignorance

Oh ok :marseysad:

How accurate/consistent is it?

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