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So was this an attempted coup by EAs or not.

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EAs?

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How can you be this neurodivergent yet not know what 'EA' means?

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I know a few autism but am not an autism encyclopaedia.

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Now tell me what is an EA in this context?

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oh effective altruism. I know those guys. Aren't they the ones who were wordswordswords geniuses then fell face first into the pavement the moment they actually tried doing anything useful?

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Its not just an organization. Its a movement with a culture and mentality You have silicon valley people who believe in effective altruism which defacto makes them managers/rulers/gatekeepers over technology. OpenAI put out a statement early on , stating that AI was too powerful for normal people to use and that it was going to be limited to vetted companies and organizations. Something happened which turned that around.

If you see technology being kept from normal people or people implementing paternalistic policies on social media sites, effective altruism guys are likely behind it unless its woke scolds or legal.

They are basically cute twinks who think they are the enlightened and only they can be trusted with power. They don't say it that bluntly, though.

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They are basically cute twinks who think they are the enlightened and only they can be trusted with power. They don't say it that bluntly, though.

I really do believe that such a group exists.

I also believe 99% of the groups who end up thinking they are that group end up being wrong.

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They did some useful stuff sending people towards anti-malaria charities.

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And so did rDrama. :marseywholesome:

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We were doing that in particular because of their drives.

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Donations some nets who cares

Making malaria endemic in rich countries again so they pay for a real cure would be the actual Effective solution

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ohhhh nice. So they did do something that worked. Nice actually.

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>get rid of plantlife to turn into a soulless gravel driveway instead of planting a tree and wildflowers.

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These are the people who are supposedly in charge of figuring out how to prevent an AI from turning everything into paperclips btw. Secretly they want to turn everything into paperclips, literally.

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You will be a paperclip and you will be happy

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Lmao, I never thought about it this way. I guess all we have to do to convince EAs to do a 180 and support creating clippy is convincing them to adopt the Buddhist mantra of "all life is suffering"...

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I mean, yeah, that's a sort of the inevitable conclusion, if instead of actual compassion you run an neurodivergent simulation. Complete with the part where before killing yourself you must ensure that your AI will be successful at colonizing and sterilizing its light cone.

Fun fact: I once got into a debate with Tomasik, back when /r/drama had pinging, and I found his weak spot: ask him why would worker bees fear death, if they were capable of fearing death. This kinda breaks his anthropomorphizing routine and at least back then he started to flail around randomly and bowed out shortly thereafter.

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I thought these guys had sunk in some scam or something?

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unlike antifa, effective altruism is literally just a way of looking at things.

King of crypto scammers Sam Bankman Fried was talking about EA a lot, so some people associate it with him.

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ah. Funny that.

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>Steal other people's money, but it's good

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uhhhh.... because its in the game :taycold:

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"effective altruism" movement, sprung from the "rationalism" community around eliezer yudkowsky's lesswrong.com, yudkowsky's main interest today is "AI alignment" -- how to ensure that a future AI has interests that don't include turning all humans into fuel or torturing humans as an art form.

some dramatards seem to think effective altruism is ai alignment. but they're completely different topics :marseyshrug:

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Thank you for the explanation. It was helpful and I appreciate it.

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You can join the EA movement on drama by putting e/acc in your pronouns

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E/ACK!!!

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No the idea now is that's it's non-ea ai safety people on somehow ending up with half of the board

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ai safety people

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burn the whole fricking company down

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They were trying but Sam is coming back and he apparently is demanding changes in governance if he does

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