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Wizards of the coast is bankrupt and finished after laying off 20 employees :chuditsover::marseyyugi: hacker news in shambles :marseycry:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38668906

Prepare for the enshittification and bedbathandbeyonding of Magic the gathering.

If I had to make a guess as to why, given the fact that the people they laid off were all senior leaders and the numbers are good, it would be preparing for a pump and dump.

if you want to be able to pump and dump a really strong brand then you need to be able to have leaders who don't mind burning the brands equity in order to make money. My guess is that specifically what intending to do here.

Change the leadership, make new “sticky” products, pump revenue numbers, then spin out a public offering of the magic brand that looks like a great new reboot and refresh.

However the brand is only there to smuggle in the subscription model around new products that have strong margin. Everyone* gets rich cause they slaughtered their fattest pig and yet another cultural staple is killed.

>However the brand is only there to smuggle in the subscription model around new products that have strong margin

you know like selling pieces of paper for over a $100 a box for the last few decades?

I've seen people say that it would be nice to regulate loot boxes in video games, but they can't figure out how to do it without banning Magic's business model. I never understood why that would be a problem.

The genius thing about Magic is that it doesn't place individual value on a card... Video games don't have such safeguards. It's all on the studios servers and they can adjust value on the fly... I feel that's an intrinsic difference that places a video game closer to a casino ("the house always wins") than a TCG (throw out what you think is worth and let the community sort it out).

>online loot boxes

:marseyrage:

>physical loot boxes

:marseyyes:

https://i.imgur.com/lTHBaOW.jpeg

:marseylaughpoundfist:

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2024 is the year of the Pathfinder tabletop


Give me your money and I'll annoy people with it :space: https://i.rdrama.net/images/16965516366194396.webp

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PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE LET D&D DIE YES YES YESSSSSSS

If D&D dies I unironically believe a lot of the imaginationless cute twinks that play it will never touch another RPG and the good players stuck with D&D 5e groups will bring a lot of new life totally into the RPG scene *sips tea*

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>magic the gathering

>cultural staple

:#marseysmughips: :#marseyclueless:

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Prepare for the enshittification and bedbathandbeyonding of Magic the gathering.

was this not already happening?

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>Prepare for the enshittification and bedbathandbeyonding of Magic the gathering.

Didn't this happen like 7-10 years ago? :platythink:

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Is this a Harry :marseyhermione: Potter :marseyterfrentfree: spinoff

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The Simpsons of TCGs, let it die neighbor let it die

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Prepare for the enshittification

prepare? It's been over a decade

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>Prepare for the enshittification and bedbathandbeyonding of Magic the gathering.

uh too late neighba

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1702974177723302.webp

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https://i.rdrama.net/images/1702974124380218.webp

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17029740889396124.webp

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Aragorn one still makes me seethe :#shyyt:

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Lmfao. With all of these ridiculous cards, i have no idea (nor do i care to find out) if theyre real or just /tg/ outrage bait

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Corporate America figured out all they need to do to defeat the imageboard autists is crush the dweebs at their own game by out-shitposting them.

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:marse#ysad2:

I can think of at least 2 dramatards that would probably do a c*m tribute to those cards.

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I'm here king :marseypepe:

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Three. :marseysadcat:

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D&D has undoubtedly gotten more popular, but I wish it were under the stewardship of someone more deserving, like a geekier board game shop than greed-enthralled Hasbro. They've become the Disney of board games, all quantity and profit and no real concern for a high quality g*mer experience. I bet someone like Larian (Baldur's Gate 3. would've taken better care of the IP and rulesets (and they're working on a Divinity tabletop game!)

Jesus frick these people are either glueless or just super easy to impress.

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It's literally just an neurodivergent game of play pretend, why do you need the stupid corporation at all? Just get together with your bros, throw some dice and run whatever kind of game you want.

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These are midwits we're talking about, they aren't capable of taking initiative themselves so if it's not the Current Thing that holds their hand through every aspect they don't want it.

I am 100% in favour of this and I hope wizards released a lazy cash grab terrible 6th edition so all the redditors (derogatory) get what they deserve.

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Already in progress. It's called OneDnD :marseywholesome:

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With digital tabletop integration for my heccing covidsisters to play too? :luigidance:

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It's all digital :marseybardfinnsbiggestenjoyer:

The sneed was glorious and I can't wait for the second wave :killherkillher: :lolface:

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:siren:BARD BOT ALERT!:siren:Current streak was: 0 days 07 hours 00 minutes and 19 seconds

Record is 1 days 13 hours 09 minutes and 59 seconds by TheDunceonFlorist

Average time between mentions: 0 days 01 hours 41 minutes and 32 seconds

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Becouse they clearly lack imagination. Thats why they are so easy to impress

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Unironcialy most of these people are completely unwilling to "play a different game" despite there being thousands of rpgs with similar systems (some even have fetch mechanics).

Dnd has solidified itseld as nerdcore and its become fashionable somehow

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What i dont get is why? Its suck. Its stupid and booring. Its as intresting as watching paint to dry.

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Its pretty fun then again you need some actually fun people to play with not just some dude repeating references or being annoying

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If you have fun dudes to play with. Having fun has nothing to do with dnd.

I would argue it acts like anchor

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Yeah its like watching bad films or something. Dnd is a little more effort than that not by much

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>Dnd has solidified itseld as nerdcore and its become fashionable somehow.

Probably has something to do with why it fricking sucks now. Hipsters might've been insufferably smug cute twinks, but history seems to be vindicating them.

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I thought hipsters were the ones obsessed with being as "geeky" as possible. :marseyhuh:

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Not hecking toya for smelly grown men!

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How many have got this gem

https://i.rdrama.net/images/170297263887954.webp

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Non-foil?

Poor.

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Is this a real card?

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That art work :marseypuke:

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Yeah, it was part of some "Magic is gay" limited edition paypig thing

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:marseybiting:

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:#marseygem:

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noooo you can't lay people off if your company is doing okay, you have to retain people even if they're shit nooooo

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Should've just said the people they fired were chuds, then they'd be celebrating.

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Magic fans are the fricking worst.

>OMG how could they ever lay off 20 people right before the holidays

>Why would you ever fire someone working at the profitable division of the company!!

>ignores that it's 20 people out of 1100 and nobody of note/importance

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Yup, that's why Yugioh has and will always be the superior card game.

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https://i.rdrama.net/images/17029713492981036.webp

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ngl this is absolutely epic, I didn't know these strags were on the brink and how the heck do they only have a staff of 20? That's insane. lol get fricked nerds, welcome to the real world

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It's owned by Hasbro and is one of the company's most profitable areas. iirc they're trying to squeeze as much out of their paypiggies to make up for losses elsewhere but I'm just vaguely remembering some nyt article I read.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/16/business/magic-the-gathering-hasbro.html

With consumers squeezed by inflation and economic growth slowing down, Hasbro's reliance on Magic for growth has taken on a new urgency. On Thursday, the toymaker reported a loss of nearly $130 million in the fourth quarter, versus a profit of more than $80 million in the same period a year before, as consumers spent less on toys during the crucial holiday shopping season. Last month, the company said it would lay off 15 percent of its workers as it sought to cut up to $300 million in costs.

Magic generated nearly $1.1 billion in revenue in 2022, up 7 percent from the year before. The game accounted for 18 percent of Hasbro's overall revenue last year, higher than its 16 percent share in 2021.


In November, a Bank of America report took Hasbro to task for what it saw as an overly busy release schedule, saying it lowered the value of Magic cards and weakened the franchise. Hasbro's shares fell 10 percent the day the report was released, underscoring how important the card game has become to the 100-year-old company.

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It's all on the studios servers and they can adjust value on the fly

omg! Yes like just like card companies can decide to like just print 10 gazillion more of valuable cards and tank the value, and Does that happen tho???

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It didnt happen but i wish it would :marseymerchantgenocide:

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>magic

>cultural staple

https://media.giphy.com/media/10JhviFuU2gWD6/giphy.webp

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They'll probably make digital cards like Steam but making magic NFTs would truly be glorious :marseyfine:

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They'll probably make digital cards like Steam

MTG Arena is already the future of the game, there are even game mechanics specifically designed for use on digital cards: https://mtg.fandom.com/wiki/Designed-for-digital.

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There's also mechanics they printed in paper that absolutely shouldn't have been (like day/night)

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Magic arena is actually way worse than nfts with nfts you can trade them

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I hope DND and magic :marseywizard: the straggening die die 🎲 dies,

All the wokefication has ruined :marseygraze: all nerd cuck hoppies

I you play DND IRL, then you are doing with 50% :!marseytrain:s :marseytrans2: and 50feminazis who hate the source :marseymissing2: materials just like Disney :marseypinocchio: shit

I hope magic :marseychudhermione: players get cucked :marseytoad: eternally

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:marseysad#:

I just like playing fun commander decks with friends

A lot of them are wokies tho, idk what happened there

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go broke go woke

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how many people do they have? what percent were the 20?


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The genius thing about Magic is that it doesn't place individual value on a card... Video games don't have such safeguards. It's all on the studios servers and they can adjust value on the fly... I feel that's an intrinsic difference that places a video game closer to a casino ("the house always wins") than a TCG (throw out what you think is worth and let the community sort it out).

Dude's right. One of the biggest issues is that you can't exchange digital items in many games (crypto and Valve marketplace games are the exceptions to that) with other people. Thus the company controls the value completely. WoC don't make money directly from the 3rd party market, and that single degree of separation is super important in the eyes of many legislators.

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One of the biggest issues is that you can't exchange digital items in many games

:#marseyretard3:

Actually clinically r-slurred take lmao.

Bideo gayms are toys, why the frick do you want to trade bitcoin in super mario lmfao

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nice seriouspost...

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Yeah you should post bussy instead

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