By delaying something introducing stupid regulations, they block it.
EU just wants to kill tech, because its ever changing nature means that they can't control it.
Quite the opposite, in EU there is no innovation because only big tech can comply with regulation.
Edit: @dang came and mopped up, RIP _giorgio_
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Funniest thing about hacker news users is they don't realize the reason the EU shakes down American tech companies is because they are poor and need the cash the same way cops ask for cash bribes in even poorer shitholes. They actually think that EU countries that are pursuing China-like government surveillance care about privacy lmao.
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It's been like this for decades since the US is always "throw this into the wild and regulate after we see the horrible consequences".
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Regulation is like "here are the rules". The EU is like "here are maybe the rules that are vague, and if you mess up we get to fine you billions lol".
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That's not how GDPR (or any of the other regulations) worked at all.
Not only were the regulations very clear and specific (read the documentation), but they gave companies 5 years to implement (after the regulations were in draft for several years) and a grace period of two years before actually going through with legal action/notice of infringement.
When an infringement occurs you get notified X times per infringement before anything actually happens. It's actually very lax.
Legal action is easy to avoid, but companies thought they could ignore everything and do nothing.
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Perhaps the GDPR was clear, but the new one where Thierry Breton hunts his political enemies isn't.
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I'm sorry if your reading comprehension skills are below average sweaty, but just because you didn't understand the assignment doesn't mean the rest of the class is r-slurred.
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do u have a src on that ? thats not what @A heard
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Go back to Reddit.
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GDPR is a garbage set of policies that no company in the world is compliant with. The EU selectively enforces it against political enemies. All EU bureaucrats should be
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The GDPR is not only r-slurred but incredibly stringent.
You are a c*m eating Yuropoor please neck yourself.
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true for tech but with medicine I am glad we dont have the "throw it on the market and regulate after being charged later"-method
with corona that sadly was thrown out as well.
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@0 love how clueless amerimuts are
And then
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Commies are so r-slurred.
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Yeah it's definitely not corporations being steered by alphabet agencies r-slur
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Because it's based and mega city 1 pilled
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Yep, and we'll drag you neanderthals into the 22nd century kicking and screaming. Introduce whatever r-slurred policies you want to decrease the quality of life for your unwashed masses. We'll cherry pick the ones that aren't butt-backwards and continue innovating.
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Regulating computers and software is like trying to empty the Mississippi with a flour sifter
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It seems like there actually is a culture of bureaucratic control in europe and politicians crow about distrusting the citizenry they rule over.
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Big brain EU shaking down burger nerds for their lunch money. Based.
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Didn't hear you complaining about "theft" when corporations were stealing from you
They steal your data, they steal your rights, they take away your money an that's fine
But suddenly corporations being unable too enforce draconic TnAs are you're problem for which you fight for?
Ok bro. How's that Alphabet peepee taste like?
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I'd rather have my data stolen for r-slur state with innovation than for a nanny state with no innovation. Yes those are your only two options
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What innovation did google do, except "buy out already existing company, fire everypony and drive it into the ground"?
@0 wanna be a janny too kick google bot accounts off this site
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Wtf u mean, google is absolutely the king of pooping out 1,000 various new projects a year and then slamming them to the ground when they don't take off. Or slamming them to the ground even when they do- like with that music streamer hdmi dongle that came out around chromecasts. All of their services like notes, gmail, maps and their msoft office replacements all started as little innovative turds being haphazardly shotgunned out of google's anus against the wall.
They love doing it so much that they end up stripping development and support from their working projects like gmail and maps just to shit out more ploppers like google cardboard and multiple attempts to make a healthcare tracking app. That's why all their services fricking suck now a days, the original devs that worked on them are forced to go make new dogshit year after year.
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Popularized search, make the LLM (chat gpt) aritecture. Gmail. Etc. sure they suck balls now and other company's are taking over but that's a good thing. If you suck you die, but I think the government will bail them out if they ever do get into actual collapse territory. They have a Mano poly on many aspects of the internet but the government won't touch them
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Imagine corporations advertising dog food to you because they know you just google it! The EU had know to choice but to kneecap there economy.
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They no longer believe in private property. It's all communism-lite.
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It's not even Communism, it's just state capitalist rent seeking.
This change does little to benefit the end user, it exists to siphon money from American tech companies(which suck, but suck for reasons other than "doesn't display competitors services front and center").
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I was thinking of the HN posters more so. There is a serious dislike they have there for companies extorting their private property rights and not doing exactly what a foreign government says is the worst thing in the world.
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I mean those companies' private property rights are protected by the governments they operate under, so of course they have to comply. It's just the rules these governments make are fricking stupid and don't really solve the real problems.
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It's always the gamble with the EU, 1/3 of their regulations are incredible (food standards), 1/3 are overreach but I agree with it so it's fine (forcing Apple to use USB-C), and 1/3 are completely r-slurred red tape.
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Aren't their food standards like that because they ban shit that could be bad, while the FDA tests to see exactly what amount of something is bad?
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True, either way less random chemicals in food the better imo
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I mean no chemical harm us like fructose and sucrose.
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Forcing apple to use usbc is absolutely the right thing
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Europoors brains can't handle another cable and must stifle innovation by forcing a certain standard.
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As someone who works on thousands of devices. USB C cables are very fragile, much more than lighting, and the standard is a confusing nightmare. So glad daddy EU forced everyone to use it cuz euros are to poor to afford another cable.
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Yeah normal people like having one cable for everything, not every brand their own.
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The EU didn't force them to. They just picked the exact date Apple guaranteed Lightning through and patted themselves on the back.
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Agreed, but in this case it's a good one. It does what techcels have been trying and failing to do with technical solutions for 20 years: enabling/enforcing interoperability between different closed source products so you don't have to use one company's product just because you use a certain platform or your friends are using it.
Like with GDPR, we're going to get 10 years of malicious compliance, until they give up or the whole European welfare system is funded from the fines.
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The food standards are overblown since they are largely self policed.
Read what I wrote above. Now picture in your head that I put a /s at the end. Good job sweaty!
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Is that why this has been happening? I was blaming Google for being r-slurred and making their site worse. !eurochads
In the grizzly darkness of the far future, there is only moid seethe.
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Britain had the right idea by leaving, they were just too r-slurred and incompetent to do it properly
Real Brexit has never been tried
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I can still click maps in my local searches so I'd say brexit was absolutely worth it.
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This, but with nukes
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Litterally never happened to me
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They have been making it worse. Don't hear people up in arms about YouTube running slower on anything but chrome
But ho boy muh megacorpiration is under attack! Americans up in arms, jumping too protect them.
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the main issue is anybody who cares enough to complain is probably not very affected due to things like knowing to use adblock
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At least according to the users of the linked thread, its indeed googles faults because malicious compliance. Which I would fully believe tbh, the eu definitly overregulates stuff, but companies seething when their god given right to steal from and generally frick over their customers is infringed by governments is also very believable.
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Frick it makes sense now
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AI is for CUTE TWINKS!
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Who must go?
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Please end Europe
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When WW3 inevitably breaks out in eurostan, I say we nuke it all just to be safe.
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In every nuclear scenario, Europe gets glassed beyond recognition.
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As it should be.
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You know we have enough nukes to flatten the U.S ten times over? I know it's not as good as a 100 times over, like you have, but that's good enough.
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You're typing in English.
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It is indeed over for the French.
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Frogs have completely modeled there military around fighting shirtless nigs in West Africa and then expect Putin to be afraid of them.
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This fricking neighbor
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https://old.reddit.com/r/GoogleMaps/comments/1b228yx/not_able_to_click_on_map_during_google_searchwhy/?sort=controversial
I've never seen a reddit post with 100+ votes but the entire comment section having less than 5 votes each. Wtf happened there?
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B-b-b-but the EU was only supposed to make things worse for Apple users.
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And Google users.
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But I literally just did it to test it
Maybe it hasn't hit Krautland yet
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Yeah I can too.
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The EU has a lot of nice ideas behind absolutely r-slurred implementations. For example it's a very good idea to let people know just how much sites track you via cookies. Forcing cookie popups upon the whole world on every single site you visit for eternity though is such an unbelievably stupid implementation.
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My local news affiliate websites have the stupid fricking GDPR cookie popups. Why are news stations in the midwestern United States scared of foreign regulations on the other side of the planet?
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It's what happens when bureaucrat red tape straggots who are basically cavemen when it comes to technology try to regulate it.
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Unironically true
that said some regulations are good because corpos would poison the seas and boil you alive if it padded their bottom line by a dollar
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Europoors are so unbased, the EU is a massive r-slur.
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I hate HNcels so much.
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It's not wrong though, EU routinely fricks over it's own startups with it's r-slurred bureaucratic bullshit.
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It's by design, as a gesture of goodwill to the US, I guess.
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Everyone hates big companies until they're minorly inconvenienced by a lack of integration
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Fascinating how a shitty trade union "evolved" into the gayest version of the 4th Reich imaginable
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I hate feature rollouts
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Raise heck praise dale
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okay, kid im done. i doubt you even have basic knowlege of hacking. i doul boot linux so i can run my scripts. you made a big mistake of replying to my comment without using a proxy, because i'm already tracking youre ip. since ur so hacking iliterate, that means internet protocol. once i find your ip i can easily install a backdoor trojan into your pc, not to mention your email will be in my hands. dont even bother turning off your pc, because i can rout malware into your power system so i can turn your excuse of a computer on at any time. it might be a good time to cancel your credit card since ill have that too. if i wanted i could release your home information onto my secure irc chat and maybe if your unlucky someone will come knocking at your door. id highly suggest you take your little comment about me back since i am no script kiddie. i know java and c++ fluently and make my own scripts and source code.
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EU just ruins things because they can't build anything.:
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To my knowledge they've never been "blocked". Google simply didn't release them in the EU for a while.:
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By delaying something introducing stupid regulations, they block it.:
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Personally I don't want to be drinking polluted water, eat unsanitary food, live in a place where all housing is owned by a handful of entities that engage in price-fixing, work 80 hours a week in an environment when response to mass worker suicides is to install suicide nets, have my privacy violated by private corporations (foreign or domestic) or have my insurance rates tripled by some opaque discriminatory AI, but you do you in whatever dystopian future you dream of.:
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You're just a low life europoor communist.:
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EU just wants to kill tech, because its ever changing nature means that they can't control it.:
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Quite the opposite, in EU there is no innovation because only big tech can comply with regulation.:
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EU is just hurting its own startups.:
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Wasn't the suicide net thing a communist China invention
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At this rate I need to plan to move to US after my PhD.
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