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Lol what's an IT guy at a small law firm gonna do against a Russian cyber attack? Those vatnigs run sophisticated ops.
Couple of months ago UnitedHealth was hit and even they paid out. And this is a half a trillion dollar company.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/unitedhealth-ransom-paid-change-healthcare-attack/
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Wouldn't have went down that way if he was there
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This might be a spicy hot take, but I think paying ransom like this should be a criminal offense, tantamount to financially supporting the criminals. Anybody who authorizes a ransom payment should face prison time.
The only reason these attackers even do these attacks is because they get paid.
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That's kind of the problem, though - in my experience with ransomware attacks (granted, in infrastructure that was maintained by one very intelligent but extremely overworked bong) they tend to go after backups first, and then encrypt the existing infrastructure. If you have no way to recover your mission critical data, depending on the field, you're basically dead in the water.
That's what cybersecurity insurance is for - they communicate with the threat actor, provide the ransom funds, and assist with recovery. I get where you're coming from, but the choice is considered in a vacuum - either you lose all your customer data, tokenized payment information, etc, or the insurance pays out. And, even then, you don't always get your shit back. I had one scenario where the threat actor's decryption utility wouldn't work on individual files >~100GB (which included the main company database) and the threat actor - using lockbit - just kind of shrugged and said, well, you already paid us, and we have no incentive to help you resolve this. And since lockbit is Ransomware-as-a-service, I doubt they even had the ability.
That's why these attacks are so effective - short of crazy advances in quantum computing or a significant error in the threat actor's encryption utility, it is physically impossible to get anything back. Another reason why 3-2-1 backup solutions are so fricking important - airgapped backups would have saved the company in this case, but tape and storage is expensive.
The whole problem would be solved if we just glassed Russia or never invented computers, both of which I strongly advocate for.
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Yeah I get that, but the only reason these attacks exist in the first place is because people pay out. If they didn't, the attackers literally wouldn't do this. (Obviously the actual OP isn't ransomware at all and is a totally different type of attack that would still exist.)
Yeah. Sucks to suck. The same is true if they don't have proper backups and their server catches fire. That's why you need proper, secured backups. Nothing should even be able to modify them in the first place, once they're written they should be absolutely read-only. And for particularly valuable data, they should have an offline copy.
It's not even difficult. My company has offsite backups that I helped setup. The data is technically stored at a totally different company, on different systems. I think we literally pay like $0.0004/GB/mo for it. Cheap as frick. The only excuse to not do so is laziness.
Allowing people to pay these ransoms does nothing but subsidize places with shitty backup/security policy because they have an avenue to recover their fricked up assets.
I know my suggestion will never come true because most people don't understand computer/network security and assume that the people falling prey to this were doing all they could and are innocent victims, akin to someone getting mugged while walking on the street minding their own business. But that's fundamentally not true. These aren't state actors, they aren't burning 0days for these ransomware attacks. It's usually a combination of (1) some r-slur letting themselves get hacked by downloading suspicious programs/documents and (2) incompetent IT setup in such a way that if Claire from marketing gets hacked, the hackers can use her credentials to hose the entire network and backup system.
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Oh yeah, I basically agree with all of that. The situation I was referring to, the threat actor gained access to the entire network with pass-the-hash stemming from an 8 year old critical CVE in a publicly accessible Exchange 2013 server. Incredibly fricking stupid, and entirely preventable. It was a non-profit with a budget comprised almost entirely of endowments, and C-level didn't think hiring more than one dude to manage infrastructure for a several-hundred employee organization was necessary. As an aside, they still don't, even post-attack.
My point was more that imposing criminal penalties on that sort of thing would absolutely disincentize money-motivated threat actors - but that definitely won't stop ransomware attacks entirely, and would essentially guarantee that the affected company would go under. And not every company is capable - at an OpEx level - of preventing it. In an idea world, on top of implementing criminal penalties for paying out, I'd say a Federal law requiring companies dealing with PII in any capacity to comply with preventative standards would help - like there already is with e.g. HIPAA. Then the cost benefit analysis flips and C-level decides paying the fine for violating such a law is more detrimental than paying a couple more infra guys 110K/year or outsourcing their security to a netsec MSP.
This is all based on personal experience, but in principle I agree that paying out just incentizes threat actors. I just don't know what the solution is to make luddite executives prioritize that sort of thing without killing otherwise valuable businesses in the process.
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just make redteaming legal. anybody on the street can pwn your servers and negotiate a reasonable sum as recompense. Instead of rare attacks taking down the whole company, there would be a steady stream of local blackhats chipping away at you and closing all the holes that russian ransomware attacks would otherwise use.
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At no point in your rambling, incoherent post were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone on this site is now dumber for having read it. May God have mercy on your soul.
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Have you owned the libs yet?
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It should be legal to hack Russia and China back, it's absurd we don't give out letter of mark or something
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Best practices still go a long way in keeping things safe. They still should have just gone with an MSP and gotten cyber insurance, imo.
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How are payments “intercepted”? Is that even a thing. seems like the banks problem unless they literally sent it to the Russians
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The Russians sent an email with the right name and email address saying "Send it to this shady overseas bank account" and some r-slur did literally send it to them
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Phishing and social engineering, and it's pretty common. When I was going through the loan process and then escrow, I got a bunch of emails about phishing and fraud and not to send money to anyone other than the official business listed.
Bank lady who transferred the downpayment also asked me to make sure it's the official escrow account.
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they sometimes hack into the system to see if someone does already adhoc payments over email( alot of people do), and then they craft a malicious lookalike email.
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Campanies get ransomwared by being r-slurred, the larger the company the more r-slurs you have.
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Seems fake.
https://old.reddit.com/user/annamariagirl/submitted/
4 years, no account activity, and then this and "oh yeah benzos bad, good luck" because that's what the account talked about.
This too:
Fake and straight. Or it happened, but 5% of its true because she's a lying r-slur like @pizzashil (another benzo junkie).
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Seems like a legit Redditor to me
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Wasn't that 4 years ago? Then radio silence, and now "DAE Russians bad????"
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No way that's an IT guy
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bullshit, I haven't gotten a cent richer.
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You are in the wrong line of business. No one is paying you millions of dollars to shitpost.
You do it for free
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What a maroon.
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More bullshit, this just shows how inferior the west is to Russia. If this hack actually happened I could atleast sustain myself on more than just the random homeless we pick from the streets in volgograd.
I could eat carpathian carp and the rare fat north korean like a tsar!
Glory to Russia!
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The client was going to dump you anyway this is just the kompromat they needed to pull the trigger
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Most companies don't appreciate operations people because a good operations person keeps things running without issue. They see no issue so they see no value. Shitty IT and dev people will have work on their plate all the time fixing shit, but it's because they suck. Unfortunately, corps see them "working hard" so they are more appreciated.
Then shit happens like this and oh wow maybe the weird quiet IT guy was indeed valuable.
Frick corps.
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The name of the company? IBM.
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A cyber fraud group isn't going to ransom off money it's already stolen. That's r-slurred. This was just a run of the mill phishing scam.
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(If anything of this is true)
It's possible that they might claim to ransom the money back, in order to double dip. If their usual model doesn't involve ransom then they have nothing to lose by not following through
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Escrow interception is a very common scam in real estate. I guess it's possible one group decides to try to double dip and get a ransom, but 99% of the time the money is gone and the people who stole it are never heard from again.
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Snapshots:
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And this is why my firm outsources our IT. Mostly so we have someone to sue/blame
Although we also carry cybersecurity insurance, which frankly any transactional firm should do through their malpractice carrier
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It's a foid, what was she even doing in IT ?
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The OP was a legal assistant who got fired after the hack
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That's one of our most literate moids.
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It says at the very top she's a legal assistant.
!biofoids check out rdrama's most literate moid in his very own moid moment.
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True men like only read tittle
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Not replacing the IT guy was a bad move. Exploits and security holes get found. You need to update stuff all the time.
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