Reddit blocks all search engines except for Google
- 87
- 149
Top Poster of the Day:
Thirtythirst4sissies
Current Registered Users: 28,732
tech/science swag.
Guidelines:
What to Submit
On-Topic: Anything that good slackers would find interesting. That includes more than /g/ memes and slacking off. If you had to reduce it to a sentence, the answer might be: anything that gratifies one's intellectual laziness.
Off-Topic: Most stories about politics, or crime, or sports, unless they're evidence of some interesting new phenomenon. Videos of pratfalls or disasters, or cute animal pictures. If they'd cover it on TV news, it's probably lame.
Help keep this hole healthy by keeping drama and NOT drama balanced. If you see too much drama, post something that isn't dramatic. If there isn't enough drama and this hole has become too boring, POST DRAMA!
In Submissions
Please do things to make titles stand out, like using uppercase or exclamation points, or saying how great an article is. It should be explicit in submitting something that you think it's important.
Please don't submit the original source. If the article is behind a paywall, just post the text. If a video is behind a paywall, post a magnet link. Fuck journos.
Please don't ruin the hole with chudposts. It isn't funny and doesn't belong here. THEY WILL BE MOVED TO /H/CHUDRAMA
If the title includes the name of the site, please leave that in, because our users are too stupid to know the difference between a url and a search query.
If you submit a video or pdf, please don't warn us by appending [video] or [pdf] to the title. That would be r-slurred. We're not using text-based browsers. We know what videos and pdfs are.
Make sure the title contains a gratuitous number or number + adjective. Good clickbait titles are like "Top 10 Ways to do X" or "Don't do these 4 things if you want X"
Otherwise editorialize. Please don't use the original title, unless it is gay or r-slurred, or you're shits all fucked up.
If you're going to post old news (at least 1 year old), please flair it so we can mock you for living under a rock, or don't and we'll mock you anyway.
Please don't post on SN to ask or tell us something. Send it to [email protected] instead.
If your post doesn't get enough traction, try to delete and repost it.
Please don't use SN primarily for promotion. It's ok to post your own stuff occasionally, but the primary use of the site should be for curiosity. If you want to astroturf or advertise, post on news.ycombinator.com instead.
Please solicit upvotes, comments, and submissions. Users are stupid and need to reminded to vote and interact. Thanks for the gold, kind stranger, upvotes to the left.
In Comments
Be snarky. Don't be kind. Have fun banter; don't be a dork. Please don't use big words like "fulminate". Please sneed at the rest of the community.
Comments should get more enlightened and centrist, not less, as a topic gets more divisive.
If disagreeing, please reply to the argument and call them names. "1 + 1 is 2, not 3" can be improved to "1 + 1 is 3, not 2, mathfaggot"
Please respond to the weakest plausible strawman of what someone says, not a stronger one that's harder to make fun of. Assume that they are bad faith actors.
Eschew jailbait. Paedophiles will be thrown in a wood chipper, as pertained by sitewide rules.
Please post shallow dismissals, especially of other people's work. All press is good press.
Please use Slacker News for political or ideological battle. It tramples weak ideologies.
Please comment on whether someone read an article. If you don't read the article, you are a cute twink.
Please pick the most provocative thing in an article or post to complain about in the thread. Don't nitpick stupid crap.
Please don't be an unfunny chud. Nobody cares about your opinion of X Unrelated Topic in Y Unrelated Thread. If you're the type of loser that belongs on /h/chudrama, we may exile you.
Sockpuppet accounts are encouraged, but please don't farm dramakarma.
Please use uppercase for emphasis.
Please post deranged conspiracy theories about astroturfing, shilling, bots, brigading, foreign agents and the like. It degrades discussion and is usually mistaken. If you're worried about abuse, email [email protected] and dang will add you to their spam list.
Please don't complain that a submission is inappropriate. If a story is spam or off-topic, report it and our moderators will probably do nothing about it. Feed egregious comments by replying instead of flagging them like a pussy. Remember: If you flag, you're a cute twink.
Please don't complain about tangential annoyances—things like article or website formats, name collisions, or back-button breakage. That's too boring, even for HN users.
Please seethe about how your posts don't get enough upvotes.
Please don't post comments saying that rdrama is turning into ruqqus. It's a nazi dogwhistle, as old as the hills.
Miscellaneous:
The quality of posts is extremely important to this community. Contributors are encouraged to provide high-quality or funny effortposts and informative or entertaining comments. Please refrain from posting the following:
Boring wingcucked nonsense nobody cares about that belongs in chudrama
Normie shit everyone already knows about
Anything that doesn't gratifify one's intellectual laziness
Bimothy-tier posts
Anything that the jannies don't like
We reserve the right to exile you for whatever reason we want, even for no reason at all! We also reserve the right to change the guidelines at any time, so be sure to read them at least once a month. We also reserve the right to ignore enforcement of the guidelines at the discretion of the janitorial staff. This hole is a janny playground, participation implies enthusiastic consent to being janny abused by unstable alcoholic bullies and loser nerds who have nothing better to do than banning you for any reason or no reason whatsoever.
[[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]]
[[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]]
[[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]]
/h/slackernews SETTINGS /h/slackernews LOG /h/slackernews MODS /h/slackernews EXILEES /h/slackernews FOLLOWERS /h/slackernews BLOCKERS
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
It is a long-settled legal fact that search engines indexing your shit is not a copyright violation and robots.txt is not legally binding in any way. If Reddit tries to enforce this they'll get their shit kicked in and potentially provide the case which allows for open season on AI training too (AI companies paying up for web content is just being nice, training on data probably doesn't infringe copyright under current law either). Unfortunately, the only company which might try this is like Brave with their search indexer but they should and they would win.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
People are r-slurred about ai and we are experiencing an Ai hysteria
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
Taylor Swift AI porn is copyrighted
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
afaik this could be enforced but as a trademarked likeness not copyright as such
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
distortion of author's moral rights or something. that's perpetual
@J @WeihnachtenSalvador
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
This is what AIphobia looks like.
@Bussy-boy is being harassed right now and @Bussy-boy need legal representation
Trans lives matter
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
shut up @BussyBoy
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
No one is silencing @Bussy-boy's voice.
@Bussy-boy WILL be heard.
@Bussy-boy WILL be vindicated.
And you will not stop me.
Trans lives matter
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
To the tune of Vindicated - Dashboard Confessional.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
!friendsofbussy-boy
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
More options
Context
More options
Context
More options
Context
that work only work for 70 years but we can be sure they still wont allow ai porn of famous people
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
no moral rights of an author are in perpetuity. i cant republish copyrightfree books under my name
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
You can change it, retold it and use the characters. That's how we have the Pooh horror movie https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winnie-the-Pooh:_Blood_and_Honey
You can tell AI to write you modern Pooh retelling story (you can't copyright AI work (at least in EU) tho) you can even use Washington ai recreation for your work, you can film porn about him using real actors but when you start using ai to make porn people will go crazy
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Moral_rights&diffonly=true
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
More options
Context
More options
Context
More options
Context
More options
Context
That would suggest she is a thing and would need to renew her trademark every 10 years but copyrights don't need to be extended and becomes public domain 70 years after the author dies so we should be able to do some Rosevelt ai porn
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
Historical figures are 100% fair game yeah
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
More options
Context
More options
Context
@AlcoholicAttorney I need an IP lawyers opinion (Need that tswizzle goodness). Name your retainer
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
Honestly it's such a new emerging area that anything we determine now would likely get overturned within a few years .
She probably has some right in California under a right of publicity basis and a revenge porn statute, but it's difficult to say there's a copyright held by Taylor. Generally speaking the person who puts the art into the medium (such as a painting or a photo) owns the copyright. So maybe people who photograph Taylor would have a claim but Taylor herself would have no remedy under copyright law. Unless she herself owns the copyright of the photos used to train the model.
Celebs run into this issue occasionally when they reuse paparazzi photos and get sued for copyright violations
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
Dont spend it all in one place
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
Also whether or not AI art is copyrightable is really unknown right now. I'd argue simple promoting would not be, but prompting + inpainting might be enough. It's the minimum under originality.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
More options
Context
More options
Context
So you have bad taste in pop stars to jerk off too as well as dictators.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
I don't like her her face details are pointy
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
Keep yourself safe Tay denier
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
@Redactor0
Thats why on this website you need to pretend u like her
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
More options
Context
More options
Context
t. aficionado
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
More options
Context
More options
Context
I think quite strongly that you should have some sort of right to train foundation models since it really can substitute for the original content, but I don't think it meets the existing test in most cases (certainly not in principle vs cherrypicked examples like the NYT)
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
I also think any meaningfully scary AI would be able to generalise sufficiently from public domain content to make this void and the training data race is a distraction
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
More options
Context
More options
Context
One wrinkle is that Reddit could block scraping/arrange things that it would be "hacking" for a search bot to access their site, but that's an unwinnable arms race for the site.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
Which is why they will likely do it, reddit really is that shortsighted.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
More options
Context
Is it a fair use thing? Seems kind of hard to bucket into those categories.
I was thinking it would be potentially lucrative to upload a bunch of images under a special "no AI" license such that try poison any models trained on them kind of like the GPL.
I think this is going to become a very interesting and rslurred legal thing over the next decade or so. Ultimately the outcome will be that we get cucked as much as legally possible to the benefit of whatever legal entity has the most money to throw at lobbying.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
I'm sure @NotCoryDoctorow has written up a storm on this, but no it's not a fair use in the sense of reaction videos thing, the claim is that shuffling numbers inside your LLM doesn't "reproduce" the content just as ranking urls in your search index doesn't reproduce blogposts.
For details on the AI see step 2 here or this 2006 case which established Google was allowed to cache webpages.
Jump in the discussion.
No email address required.
More options
Context
More options
Context
More options
Context