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It is a long-settled legal fact that search engines indexing your shit is not a copyright violation and robots.txt is not legally binding in any way. If Reddit tries to enforce this they'll get their shit kicked in and potentially provide the case which allows for open season on AI training too (AI companies paying up for web content is just being nice, training on data probably doesn't infringe copyright under current law either). Unfortunately, the only company which might try this is like Brave with their search indexer but they should and they would win.
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People are r-slurred about ai and we are experiencing an Ai hysteria
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Taylor Swift AI porn is copyrighted
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afaik this could be enforced but as a trademarked likeness not copyright as such
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distortion of author's moral rights or something. that's perpetual
@J @WeihnachtenSalvador
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that work only work for 70 years but we can be sure they still wont allow ai porn of famous people
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no moral rights of an author are in perpetuity. i cant republish copyrightfree books under my name
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You can change it, retold it and use the characters. That's how we have the Pooh horror movie https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winnie-the-Pooh:_Blood_and_Honey
You can tell AI to write you modern Pooh retelling story (you can't copyright AI work (at least in EU) tho) you can even use Washington ai recreation for your work, you can film porn about him using real actors but when you start using ai to make porn people will go crazy
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https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Moral_rights&diffonly=true
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This is what AIphobia looks like.
@Bussy-boy is being harassed right now and @Bussy-boy need legal representation
Trans lives matter
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shut up @BussyBoy
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No one is silencing @Bussy-boy's voice.
@Bussy-boy WILL be heard.
@Bussy-boy WILL be vindicated.
And you will not stop me.
Trans lives matter
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!friendsofbussy-boy
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To the tune of Vindicated - Dashboard Confessional.
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That would suggest she is a thing and would need to renew her trademark every 10 years but copyrights don't need to be extended and becomes public domain 70 years after the author dies so we should be able to do some Rosevelt ai porn
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Historical figures are 100% fair game yeah
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@AlcoholicAttorney I need an IP lawyers opinion (Need that tswizzle goodness). Name your retainer
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Honestly it's such a new emerging area that anything we determine now would likely get overturned within a few years .
She probably has some right in California under a right of publicity basis and a revenge porn statute, but it's difficult to say there's a copyright held by Taylor. Generally speaking the person who puts the art into the medium (such as a painting or a photo) owns the copyright. So maybe people who photograph Taylor would have a claim but Taylor herself would have no remedy under copyright law. Unless she herself owns the copyright of the photos used to train the model.
Celebs run into this issue occasionally when they reuse paparazzi photos and get sued for copyright violations
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Dont spend it all in one place
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Also whether or not AI art is copyrightable is really unknown right now. I'd argue simple promoting would not be, but prompting + inpainting might be enough. It's the minimum under originality.
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So you have bad taste in pop stars to jerk off too as well as dictators.
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I don't like her her face details are pointy
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Keep yourself safe Tay denier
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Thats why on this website you need to pretend u like her
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t. aficionado
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I think quite strongly that you should have some sort of right to train foundation models since it really can substitute for the original content, but I don't think it meets the existing test in most cases (certainly not in principle vs cherrypicked examples like the NYT)
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I also think any meaningfully scary AI would be able to generalise sufficiently from public domain content to make this void and the training data race is a distraction
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One wrinkle is that Reddit could block scraping/arrange things that it would be "hacking" for a search bot to access their site, but that's an unwinnable arms race for the site.
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Which is why they will likely do it, reddit really is that shortsighted.
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Is it a fair use thing? Seems kind of hard to bucket into those categories.
I was thinking it would be potentially lucrative to upload a bunch of images under a special "no AI" license such that try poison any models trained on them kind of like the GPL.
I think this is going to become a very interesting and rslurred legal thing over the next decade or so. Ultimately the outcome will be that we get cucked as much as legally possible to the benefit of whatever legal entity has the most money to throw at lobbying.
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I'm sure @NotCoryDoctorow has written up a storm on this, but no it's not a fair use in the sense of reaction videos thing, the claim is that shuffling numbers inside your LLM doesn't "reproduce" the content just as ranking urls in your search index doesn't reproduce blogposts.
For details on the AI see step 2 here or this 2006 case which established Google was allowed to cache webpages.
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Glad to see another social media platform become a walled garden!
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Glad to see Reddit inching to its death
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fun fact, coomer sub engagement is down massively. /r/politics gets almost no engagement from its subscribers. no one likes reddit any more
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Do you have a coomer source? I'd always assumed that was the perennial golden goose
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This sub is just one example. There were thousands of daily active users years ago, now it's a ghost town
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Is this just shifting fetish trends though? I doubt stuff like asmr or feet was as popular back then. And Onlyfans killed the amateur porn category.
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Remember what they took from you
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Get used to it. There are only a few possibilities for the future internet in the face of LLMs that slurp up your content and regurgitate it to anyone without crediting or paying you:
every site becomes paywalled/login gated
people stop producing actual content, since they get nothing out of it
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It's like being on AOL again
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I'm sure nobody remembers this, but back in 2012 google had an online class called "google olympics" that taught how to formulate effective search strings and demo poweruser features hidden in google products. Now everything has gotten so sloppified for phone users I can't find something slightly obscure even with extremely specific queries.
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Travelling back in time to kill
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Goddarn i couldnt remember what it was called and was starting to question my sanity. I knew there was some google classes thing for better google fu back in the gap
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booleans
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See my report, I took the screencap on 6/19 of this year, tried multiple browsers and my phone.
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I'm about to become a boomer and use DuckDuckGo.
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DDG is just Bing. Yandex is becoming my go-to when google won't give me results.
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i tried searching about the that faked that superconductor thing as my first search on yandex cus google didn't show anything after the hype period when people were still buying that this zased russian catgirl solved it but it gave me like an entire page of nothing but porn lmao. i imagine they probably have a safe search mode i could've tried but my goodness
!ifrickinglovescience does anyone have any good drama posts about when they realized it was bs
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Common Yandex W
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No mom I wasn't looking at porn, the search engine just suggested it when I was doing scientific research
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https://yandex.com/tune/search
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Yandex image search fricks
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HARD
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I swear DDG has become incredibly shit in the past month or so. Seems like it just ignores half my search query. Say I search for "bash sort", it will give me fricking results for fricking powrshell, like google used to do. I say used to cuz now I feel like google is better
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It's worthless esp for images
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DDG is Bing, which also sucks now
Everything sucks; pod, bug et. al.
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I'm guessing Bing doesn't tell you to keep yourself safe anymore.
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It's been like that since they decided jewish lives matter and stopped using yandex as a source over "misinformation" concerns
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try out https://search.marginalia.nu
it gives stack overflow and blogs. One of the blogs is gonna be stellar
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bc, reddit is fake as shit these days and owned by conde nasty
!slots400
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It's actually shocking at how fake it is. The big subreddits are so brigaded and the smaller subreddits only work when they are ignored by reddit.
Live chat also chokes constantly, every F1 live chat dies at some point because reddit can't handle >10k comments in a 2 hour period.
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Reddit supposedly has millions of users, yet somehow /r/news, a default sub, routinely has posts that last multiple days, and under 200 comments.
Reddit mods/admins have made the site incredibly unfriendly to new users, mostly by making it impossible to actually engage in any subreddit, without having a years old account that already has plenty of karma.
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lol it just added a block in robots.txt as if chinese crawlers care.
Krayon sexually assaulted his sister.
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robots.txt, huh? Me think me about to play joke. Chinese joke.
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Big sites just working with each other and fricking everyone else is nothing new to the internet in current year
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There are other search engines? What you neighbors doing? Asking Jeeves???
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mojeek
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what does this even mean reddit still shows up via bing search
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Reddit is impotently telling everyone other than daddy google "you guys totes better not index any of our new stuff or else!!!!!!"
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New indexing would be technically cut off
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part of their google deal
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You can still have a custom Searx page that displays Google results
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BARDFINN
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BARD BOT ALERT!Current streak was: 0 days 00 hours 43 minutes and 18 seconds
Record is 1 days 13 hours 09 minutes and 59 seconds by TheDunceonFlorist
Best friend is BardWatch with 456 mentions
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Bardfinn
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BARD BOT ALERT!Current streak was: 0 days 04 hours 19 minutes and 58 seconds
Record is 1 days 13 hours 09 minutes and 59 seconds by TheDunceonFlorist
Best friend is BardWatch with 473 mentions
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you say you program in rust, but it seems you haven't actually released any software, curious?
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https://www.theverge.com/2024/7/24/24205244/reddit-blocking-search-engine-crawlers-ai-bot-google?showComments=1:
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https://old.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/1eb6mob/reddit_is_now_blocking_major_search_engines_and/:
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https://x.com/Dexerto/status/1816152490657640859#m:
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Well Google can't go through with their 23 billion dollar offer on a company that has 350mil rev, so I assume their "R-slurred Acquisitions" team now has additional budget to purchase reddit
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