https://lunduke.locals.com/post/5908516/gnome-bans-manjaro-core-team-member-for-uttering-lunduke for a TLDR
backstory: two months ago, a guy named Sony Piers who's an incredibly well respected open source developer was randomly ousted from the GNOME foundation, and they decided not to tell anybody until like 5 days ago.
The GNOME Foundation Board voted to remove Sonny Piers as a member of the Board of Directors for cause, at a Special Meeting on May 17th, 2024, following the procedure outlined in the GNOME Bylaws, and remove him from all committees. Effective May 25th, 2024, his seat is now vacant, and in accordance with the Bylaws will be filled for the remainder of its term by an appointment made by the Board.
A Code of Conduct complaint was also made against Sonny Piers. The Foundation is engaged in a mediation process with him, which is still ongoing and so we are unable to share more information at this time.
Obviously, people were incredibly pissed.
I'm not happy with the lack of communication and transparency from the Board to the wider community, as well as the poor execution for creating an account and posting something completely vague and uninformative. The majority of us are still completely unaware of the internal affairs and conflicts between the Board and Sonny Piers. We don't even know why he was removed, let alone what happened... Code of Conduct complaints are usually not made public at all (for good reason), so I find it even more suspicious that the Code of Conduct complaint against Sonny Piers was made public. In my opinion, mentioning the Code of Conduct complaint was only used to justify removing him, so that the community would support the decision; not to use it as a learning process and enforce the Code of Conduct, i.e. it was done in bad faith.
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Hari, I hope you realise[sic] that code of conduct violations never have a public explanation in order to protect all the parties involved—both as a privacy aspect and as a liability one. You will never receive an explanation, unless you are one of the parties involved. Any other reading of this is, at best, naive, and at worst conspiratorial.
Nothing of value is said until the director of the GNOME foundation, Robert McQueen, steps in and makes a statement
I wont bore you with the entire longpost , so heres the juicy part
We took outside legal advice on the situation and the process at multiple points, and it was duly followed. For the purposes of limiting legal liability, that advice also included making the announcement very terse and factual. I appreciate this is at tension with the transparency that the community would hope to see, but Directors are also obligated to look after the Foundation's legal requirements and financial interests.
LEGAL? I also want to mention that we still dont know why he was removed from the board, and to be honest, unless there's pending litigation, i don't think we ever will. Sonny posted on his blog later that day and was less than willing to leak why he got booted.
Word starts spreading around the linux community, and ebussy come in to clean it up
Okay, since we're seeing this topic brigaded by a bunch of new accounts that have nothing better to do than being edgelords on the Internet, I'm activating slow mode.
PART 2: he who shall not be named
During this shitstorm, a controversial tech blogger named Brian Lunduke wrote a piece about the ousting. Some of you may know him from his yearly "Linux Sucks" talks, others may know him for being a big chud This obviously pisses off the GNOME foundation, which, like most FOSS organizations, is left wing
enter Mark Wagie. Wagie is, ironically, a non-paid GNOME developer. He's the Manjaro Team Core Member, and the GNOME package maintainer for manjaro. During the shit storm, he posted a link to Lunduke's article about the ouster.
One hour later, the post was jannied , and he was BANNED
The maintainer of manjaro gnome (which isn't exactly small) had his account banned just for posting in this thread.
He was banned as far as I can tell for sharing an article from Bryan Lunduke (which is as usual, unnecessarily inflammatory). I think a removal is entirely fair and warranted - I do not have enough information about this person to know if a ban was as I don't have more information than that. I'm not aware of other posts.
ebussy makes a second appereance
Posting naked links to content from Lunduke is an immediate ban on GNOME forums, GitLab, and chat,
because there can't be no discussion. We don't control what people who watch that kind of content do on other websites, so they are absolutely free to be terrible elsewhere; we just don't allow them to be terrible here.
There has been no other ban or removal of posts in this topic, even for people questioning the integrity of the board of directors and the code of conduct committee—something that I'd caution about, incidentally.
ebussy and some new user engage in a slap fight, refusing to let either have the last word. (authors note: ebussy is french, therefore he's genetically incapable of letting someone have the last word)
(second authors note: the above was apart of the main thread, until ebussy split it into a new topic. as far as im aware, the original thread is still up and replies are still open )
The moral of the story? just tell people to use KDE.
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This is not a real person. This is someone who was randomly spawned into existence in 2016-17 via Kekkian meme magick
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nominative determinism strikes again
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Weapons grade![:#marseysmug2: :#marseysmug2:](https://i.rdrama.net/e/marseysmug2.webp)
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41023363
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Imagine some fricking janny being so self important he bans one of the most useful members of the community for posting a link to someone they don't like
I'd fricking nuke the entire project, sell a backdoor to the chinks or something
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There's a reason gnome is 3/4th dead.
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The Debian foundation issues the following statement:
We at the Debian foundation value transparency and know the importance of earning your trust. That's why we conduct all of our decision-making processes in the open. For example, when Richard Stallman was reinstated to the Free Software Foundation, the Debian foundation proudly and succinctly announced its position on the issue, and we call on the GNOME community to strive to be almost as good as us by using our process as a guide:
!linuxchads !fosstards
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Intuitive AND democratic. This is truly the year of the Linux desktop
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This chart should be updated. Pipewire needs to be added to the chart
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debiGODS just cant stop winning
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!fosstards
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Oh no people will have to use a functional DE instead of OSX with 1 million add ons needed for basic functionality.
Meanwhile OSX prepares for its biggest update in years! !applechads
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this is genuinely my biggest gripe with GNOME. A while ago i installed gnome for the heck of it and wanted to add desktop icons, i googled it and found this thread on reddit, where some poor sap asked how to enable desktop icons on gnome. the response?
i genuinely feel like this summarizes the GNOME philosophy. "you don't need [feature], we know better than you"
(i later found out that i had to install an addon to get desktop icons. i quickly uninstalled gnome and installed KDE, which i am still using to this day
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Gnome is doing it right. If you're a prissy little baby who needs a GUI, you clearly aren't able to make decisions for yourself.
Gnome is for children, TTY1 for adults
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I started out with Cinnamon, and gradually I began to
hate themrealize that the parts about I didn't like came from GNOME.Jump in the discussion.
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and if you dare report any bugs while having any extenstions installed GNOME maintainers will just yell at you for using extensions and say they arent responsbile
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Did u see the fosschads ping group Katser?
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Tech lover, IT Admin, heckin pupper lover and occasionally troll. I hold back feelings or opinions, right or wrong because I dislike conflict.
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KDE chads win again.
Hey remember when this COC shit was coming out they told us it wasn't going to be a big deal?![:marseyclueless: :marseyclueless:](https://i.rdrama.net/e/marseyclueless.webp)
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I want to be a prison guard at a hard labor camp watching these subhumans expire as their hearts fail when their disgusting obese bodies fail to swing a pickaxe. Open source communities are the subterranean basement of subhumanity.
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GNOME has been irrelevant since 2011 anyway. GNOME 2 was pure kino and they fricking ruined it. The Hitler video is really funny though:
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https://www.islinuxaboutchoice.com/
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I use compiz & xfce![:marseyjam: :marseyjam:](https://i.rdrama.net/e/marseyjam.webp)
I tried a gnome loaded iso but it confused me![:marseyconfused: :marseyconfused:](https://i.rdrama.net/e/marseyconfused.webp)
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Good thing I don't use GNOME.
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no one does
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frick gnomecels
its a kdechad's world
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he was probably a dangerous hyper racist
But really if you're going to use a """desktop environment""" you might as well be using windows
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What's the story on Lunduke? Why does SOYME hate him?
Did he call Liz Fong Jones a block headed male feminist? Or express mild displeasure towards Hamas?
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i only learned about lunduke like two days ago, but from what i gather he's just a boomer chud-servative, so a lot of the FOSS people dont like him. He also seems to have a habit of making incredibly dramatic posts about the FOSS community which doesn't paint them in a good light
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I'm a good judge of character, I saw GNOME 1.x and thought "shit's r-slurred", later I saw whatever Ubuntu shipped before they reinvented the wheel, and I thought "wow b-word, u live like that?". Terrible DE for wannabe iLatte crowd with a janitorial staff powered by delusion of grandeur.
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tldr
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GNOME foundation kicks out well respected coder (he does it for free)
they tell everyone about it two months later, implying that he did something illegal
developer posts a link to a chud website discussing the situation
gets mopped
french guy gets into a slap fight with everyone around him (he does it for free)
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lmao linuxcels stay losing thats why i just switched to windows
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Die
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my distro just didnt have support for midi controllere so i cant get it to work with my hardware. on the new windows one i just plug it in and it worked
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"open" "leftist" communities try not to build a fascist gestapo (difficulty: Ultra)
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More like LeBussy amirite![:marseyawesomeface: :marseyawesomeface:](https://i.rdrama.net/e/marseyawesomeface.webp)
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Snapshots:
https://lunduke.locals.com/post/5899324/gnome-ousts-elected-board-member-in-secret-and-tells-nobody-for-2-months:
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https://lunduke.locals.com/post/5908516/gnome-bans-manjaro-core-team-member-for-uttering-lunduke:
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and they decided not to tell anybody until like 5 days ago.:
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steps in and makes a statement:
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posted on his blog:
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being a big chud
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refusing to let either have the last word.:
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just tell people to use KDE.:
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