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I'm thinking of switching from Mac back to PC within the next year or two, but sounds like Windows is just getting shittier with bad features and garbage adware (why can't it just be like Windows XP :marseycryingfast:) Make the plunge back to Micro$oft or stick with Crapple? I look forward to hearing totally original burns about Apple being for r-slur children :marseycrayoneater:

No, I will not use Linux :!marseyindignant:

!applechads help me out

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Unless you wanna game or are on a huge budget crunch stick with macs. You cant upgrade ram on macs because they are an ARM SOC its why the ram swap is fast and the cpu is power efficient it just comes with the territory. The windows ARM machines have the same limit. Windows ARM laptops are super unoptimized and badly supported so I wouldn't depend on one to do anything but web apps. The soldered SSD is pretty undefendable tho !applechads .

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No gaming, just use it mainly for design and motion graphics (and a some video editing which I'd like to get into a little more). How much memory would you suggest if I stick with Apple? Looking at Mac Mini M2Pro and it has either 16GB unified and 32GB unified. The low number has me all :marseyyikes: but if it's more efficient

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it just seems like a waste of money when you can build a much more capable computer without using apple. Windows sucks but there are debloated versions of Windows that you can use. Given if everything were the same, Apple would edge out over Windows but that price to play is stupid to me.

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You should get a Mac Studio if you're doing that work and more ram cause the ram also = your gpu ram

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Yes, keep this in mind OP.

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I would consider waiting til October and snagging a used M2 Studio as they should be refreshing for the M4 Studio and Pro.

If this is literally making you money I would 100% recommend the Studio over a Mini. I'm using a M2 Max Studio right now and it's SO GOOD.

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M4's will very likely stay on that tablet thing. M5's will be dropped into the laptops and stuff. A Mac vendor told me, and I trust him.

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I doubt that? By most of the reporting I've heard the M4 is mainly around because the TSMC process it's using is better but most importantly cheaper.

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And riskier, which is why they seem to be sticking it in tablets for now.

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they're sticking with it because nothing else had a release cycle until Sept and Oct.

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I was thinking about doing this because I'm not in a huge rush to buy right away. What specs you using? :marseyshy:

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Mac minis are just laptops that aren't portable.


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If ur not getting a laptop you'll see less benefit tbh. It'll use less power but ofc battery wont matter. I use the m3 pro with 36 gb and it's enough for multitasking and data visualization. Get a used or third party m2 max with like 64 gb tbh if ur gonna go for an m2 . I wouldn't say its more efficient in one program but its def faster at swapping out. With apple it'll basically use as much ram as you give it so you just wanna make sure the memory pressure is green.

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Windows ARM

Red herring. Literally worthless. Nobody asked or cared.

Just custom build + Win10 + hunker down or live in the OSX zoo on the overpriced apple plantation. or :rapeson: hackentosh

Please let me out of this heck


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