Learntocode bros, is it really that bad out there?

Makes me happy to have my shitty office legacy code-cel job, I could be one of these loser

99% of the industry is an butt kissing farce that serves little actual societal purpose. tho investorcels probably won't realize this as they'd need to realize their redundancy as well, so there's still some time yet.

chatgpt isn't ur greatest threat, it's people realizing that small software coops would serve us far better in the long run than bloated investor driven corps that invariably enshitify their products ... but there's still some time yet before any significant amount of people catch on to this.

i just did a job hunt for a senior position w/ about 8 yoe and it's taken me 2-3 mo to have a few offers on the table, about the same time it took me to find a L4 mid position 3 years ago.

Me having quit my tech job a few months ago to pursue a meme career. I really hope this works out or I may be screwed. I had 1 promo and 3 yoe as a codecel tho, so maybe I'd be okay?

I graduated in 2019 with a CS degree and spent 2 years being a NEET and then somehow swindled a career as a business analyst.

If I graduated this year I'd probably just fricking kill myself LOL

I still dream about quitting my wage slave drop and becoming a fashion designer, pulling a goth brandy mellville and only making dark clothes for skinny women

I wouldn't hire anything from Berkeley either

Haven't several large companies in silicon valley laid off hundreds or thousands of workers over the past year, and many are moving out of state?

Of course tech bros with no work experience aren't getting jobs. The companies that had throwaway departments to hire them don't exist anymore, and those that do are getting flooded with applications.

Wonder who they'll choose . The fresh college grad making typos on his phone and crying on "the Reddit app", or the senior dev who at least knows how to spellcheck, Google, and search StackOverflow for long-forgotten code.

Can some codecel tell a codelet exactly why we need so much code being written? Nothing seems to be really changing over the 2020s, the technical infrastructure has all been built from what I can tell. All the chatting apps are years old at this point and stable, the doordash food apps are built and stable. I don't know what's going on in business but I'm willing to bet it's similar to the consumer side, not much shit is changing. It's not like 1990-2017 where literally every 3 years was a total advance and everyone had to play catch up. Even the internet and online space seems to have experienced technological stagnation from what I can gather.

Have you considered

1. Berkeleycels and other prodigious-maxed universities are putting out HR nightmares that may understand automata theory and can write quicksort in their sleep but have absolutely no ability to write useful code for anyone but a professor.

2. 'Frick off, we're full' -FAANG

3. 'No we aren't going to pay an intern 6 figures to write useless code because he got a high score.' -All the other companies

Yeah the tech market has been absolutely nuked. Getting hired as a fresh grad in any role is impossible, because you're competing with massively overqualified people with 10 years experience who are desperately trying to find any role they can after being laid off twice - and even they won't get it. There's like 1 position per major tech company a year now. Hiring is completely shut down and rolling layoffs are dropping more and more people into the desperate job market

The good old days of 500k tc wfh with no expectations are gone forever :(

One of the many Blind threads lamenting jeets and the industry https://www.teamblind.com/post/Tech-Sector-in-US-is-looking-bleak-cM3dWDcb

berkeley? go to a real school that actually takes an SAT score.

People aren't educated enough to get into entry level jobs, even in tech.

Sadly the US still hasn't figured out that apprenticeships are also a smart thing to have for high skilled jobs.

Oh well!

Everyone has learnt to code. It's no longer a high value skill especially considering most coding is very simple any idiot can do it.

Now you have an oversaturated field. Why hire a junior who did 4 years a MIT when he will have the same responsibility as Cletus who did a 4 week boot camp. Both will take ages to train because they don't know even know GIT and once they become mid they will leave. So why hire either?

Then you have all these mids. Turns out if the market is bad enough they'll work for junior wages. There's no job a mid can't do that a junior can't do.

Plus there's only so many web pages to make. If you want a real black pill look how few jobs need C or C++. You have to learn languages that are so simple they're basically word, like Python, React, Koitlin or C#. These fake languages have lowered the barriers to entry too much

I'm so glad I have a real degree and not some bullshit computer language lol

I'm calling the local HVAC apprentice program on Monday just in case.

The company I work at got 50k new grad applications for 120 roles. We are quite selective though, not sure what the rest of big tech is like.

I had an easy time changing jobs, but I'm a senior and I'm good at my job

Is it that there's no jobs or just that there's too many graduates because everyone went into that field thinking it was easy $$$?

Natural result of the ever increasing credentialism in colleges nowadays.

>getting a job with nothing but a college diploma is hard

"WE MUST DO SOMETHING TO COMBOT THIS"

Oh no they have to seek a job instead of just being handed one.