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[Literally 1984]: Usenetter likes "Reagan's willingness to give howling 3rd world savages the butt-kicking they deserve." But will still Vote Blue No Matter Who

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Joaquim Martillo

21/10/1984 07:24:024 UTC

I like Reagan's willingness to give howling 3rd world savages the butt-kicking they deserve. I like Reagan's willingness to speak the only language which the Soviets understand -- force (and no little Amy, there has not been a nuclear war). The economy is better than under Carter.

The nation seems more confident although I do not think the USA has regained respect on the world scene.

But Reagan is letting the environment get really messed up. And the political issues are ephemeral while the planet is permanent. Therefore, I am voting for Mondale. By the way, isn't it amusing, that in terms of deficit spending to stimulate the economy Reagan is the most democrat president ever.

https://www.usenetarchives.com/index.php?c=alt.&p=1 Lots of good drama on this site

David Rubin

30/10/1984 09:15:34 UTC

TC, you got the facts wrong. True, a bipartisan coalition increased social program funding by more than 5 billion, but also trimmed enough off Reagan's proposed 14% defense increase so that Congress appropriated only 5 (count 'em) billion dollars more than Reagan requested overall.

Now, Reagan may beef that Congress spent the money on the WRONG things, but not because they spent too MUCH. Reagan's original budget called for the same tax levels and only five billion less on spending.

Thus, Reagan, had he had his way, would have reduced the whopping 180 billion dollar deficit to a mere 175 billion.

As far as Reagan increasing social spending in real terms, this is true, but only because the Senate Republicans forced him to abandon some of his more dramatic proposed cuts. However, many programs, especially those targeted towards children (after all, they can't vote), have suffered real cuts. It is ironic that the Reagan administration is most avid about cutting those programs which are among the few which may actually be working as hoped.

David Rubin

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What the frick are they even referring to? By 1984 Reagan got us into... uhh...

The peacekeeping mission to Lebanon that was about helping the Palestinians and Lebanese.

The invasion of Grenada, which was the most justified military operation ever and really popular there.

Carter, Ford, etc. were much more aggressive using military force against "howling 3rd world savages".

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