I can't build a single fricking part of ROCm because these r-slurs decided to throw the entire concept of isolated environments in the trash. Every single piece of software errors out due to some bullshit (setupcowtools being the main one don't get me started on those tards) so now I have to edit every fricking cmake file and remove the --system-site-packages so it makes an actually isolated venv and doesn't choke on the incompatible dependencies it pulls from my system wide environment
If I ever find the subhuman at AMD who added --system-site-packages to all their scripts for making python venvs I'm going to fricking cut him.
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worse, it's being smug while making software >1000x larger than actually necessary.
all !codecels are actually garbage at programming
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it's not the 1970s anymore , space is so cheap it's irrelevant
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It's wild how large the package is for google oauth (just for example). You'd think google out of all places would skinny this down.
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google just announced something like 25% of their code is now ai generated. there's nothing skinny about that
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They should have a guy typing "this could be condensed" over and over like I do
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unless ur literally alan kay, that's true about every single thing u've ever written
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Is that true?
It explains why Google's products fricking suck tho.
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over 25% https://fortune.com/2024/10/30/googles-code-ai-sundar-pichai/
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not if trump makes them "sell" it
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That dev is 100% the guy that says "Works on my machine" for every bug report.
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and now I've broken my gpu drivers blindly upgrading a package. This is a problem for the next time i reboot.
I feel good about this
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time to get a nvidia gpu
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OMG Yes. I pray for a nvidia card. At night I dream of them. Buying amd was a mistake. I should literally pay taxes to nvidia on top of their mark up because it just fricking works and you can't put a price tag on that
plz daddy nvidia deep peepee my naughty wallet!
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but then you have to deal with the hellscape that is novideo drivers
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Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha
I just broke my gpu driver install by updating to amds lastest because it doesn't support my gpu and doesn't check if it does before installing!
I pray for an end to this
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proprietary drivers
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Umm ackshually they have a heckin foss driver now
Idk how well it runs because it doesn't support my GTX970
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You literally can't install pip from the repos without also installing this old as shit version of setup cowtools on ubuntu. I hate computers
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run linux mint debian edition instead ubuntu is trash
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i always had the impression that amd is full of smug hardware engineers who dont care about software because its easy stuff for weenies and not real engineering
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It's used in everything as all coders now only know python, or java if you got an actual comp sci grad
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R-slurred people decided it was an appropriate language for the packaging system in some Linux distros.
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google used it extensively. still do i imagine but that's what they invented go to replace. Reddit was lisp until they had to hire people then they rewrote in python. tons and tons of system scripts on linux. yum and dnf are python. gentoos package manager. It almost seems like a joke but its real
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It's also used for machine learning and I want to set up yolo with my security cameras.
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Yolov8 is licensed software
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I'm using v5
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It's basically used as a scripting language for a lot of stuff.
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I got halfway through trying to install rocm and just gave in and now I use some nvidia gpu in the 'cloud' anytime I need to do ML stuff. AMD really fricked up this one. There was a time when everyone was using AMD cards for crypto mining and all they needed to do was divert some of that money towards their ML devs and take advantage of that preexisting marketshare. But no, let's hire like 5 people and support 3 whole cards.
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On ubuntu LTS installing the amd drivers for my card, from amds site, with amds default config, bootloops the card. You have to install them with with a bunch of options (or just use the open source drivers which work great for everything non-ML)
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Now I'm in a root shell running whatever chatgpt spits out. Frick it.
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yea I borked my drivers
ai is the devil
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this nigga can't even use
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As long as we're threatening subhumans who make terrible programs, can we add the frickers at ASUS mobo shit?
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I had an ASUS mobo that used thermal sensors that we're just not supported by the manufacturer lol
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I outright refuse to buy anything ASUS. Their phones, tablets, mobos, laptops, it's all shit
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Their fricking mobo software made me randomly bluescreen for months because it couldn't maintain RAM clockspeed properly. Thats like one of its MAIN functions
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You bought the wrong RAM, fakkit.
Never had a problem with ASUS hardware, and I've worked with tons of shit over the years.
@iStillMissEd, hey cutie!
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I bought G.Skill Ripjaws though with the same clockspeed of the mobo
I've always gotten ASUS mobos. It was just this one that was funky with the ram. Probably a freak occurrence but I'm still gonna seethe about it.
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Seethe away!
There's always weird one-off shit with PC hardware. Like this specific stick of RAM being incompatible with a certain AMD GPU on a certain motherboard.
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What's uv and where can I get it
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Here
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AND THEY'RE FRICKING RECURSIVE. THAT'S RIGHT TRYING TO BUILD 1 PART OF THIS SHIT PULLS IN MORE SHIT WITH THE FRICKED CMAKE FILE AND FRICKS EVERYTHING
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And why is this happening? Because CUCKBUNTU ships setupcowtools 59.0 in the year of our lord 2024 and pip being the b-word that it is won't remove it because 'oh no daddy user that's not in the path where I install things so i won't touch it!"
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LGTM
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