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You are missing the point. I get to produce passable code for a dozen projects and when it shits itself I am long gone by then and it is another team's problem.

Again, this is just my understanding of the issue from an outside perspective. I could be wrong no doubt about it.

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sure the economic incentives are misaligned, but this also goes much deeper than that. not only is the high level end application code we produce utter crap, it's built on toolchains, in environments, that are in of themselves utter dogsht... lacking the consolidation and expressivity to efficiently produce and manage code at anywhere near the base level of complexity we actually understand and mentally manipulate the expressed conceptions.

this whole treading code as an "engineering" problem of applying abstractions to inherently unique situation is fundamentally a monkey brained take. code is instead a math that should trend toward generalized perfection... as all any piece of code does is take in one fixed size number and output another fix sized number.

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patents and copyrighted code though.

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just lawyers being abjectly braindead actually.

computer code fundamentally and inseparably expresses a mathematical function, and therefore shouldn't be even copywritable, let alone patentable.

the way our society goes about developing computational systems is a fricking joke that costs us literally trillions of dollars in both wasted effort and untold more in opportunity cost due to the absurd complexity due to our operating philosophy on code.

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Copyright and patents expire in like 2 decades or something though. So you just get a twenty year delay at worst while allowing the inventor to make money in that time period.

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incentivizing them to invent new expressions of the same fundamental solutions we've been putting out for decades is utterly moronic.

u still have no fking clue wtf ur talking about really.

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rue but why would anyone work if they don't get to make their share of money?

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the business problems these computer systems solve don't magically go away, meaning there is an incentive to solve them...

they just can't use violence to "own" the expression of the solution, any more than u can own any other mathematical idea.

there is not only zero positive benefit to that, there is a ton of negative that i've repeated many times over already.

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us has the most expensive medical system. It also happens to be the best quality. Competent people go where the money is. Removing patents would deincenticize inventing at previous scales.

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>as all any piece of code does is take in one fixed size number and output another fix sized number

In reality it's more complicated than that. Most business code these days involves multiple physical machines that interact with each other, and even each one physical machine is made up of multiple processors communicating. The element of time is important, partly because the machines need to coordinate properly and partly because the business requires certain things to happen at certain times. You also have to think about how your code should handle it when some service that it depends on fails for a span of time. Etc. You could come up with some highly abstract way to model all of this as mapping one fixed-sized number to another fixed-size number, but that would probably conceal more than it illuminates.

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any point at which there is a discrete input and output to a function is not just modeled as, but is fundamentally at the base abstraction computers actually operate on... is literally just inputing one fixed size number to output another fixed sized number. computer don't actually understanding anything other than fixed sized numbers, and they compute "functions," which are just mathematical abstractions that take a number as an input, and maps/outputs a single number in return.

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You can look at it like that, but I don't think it's a very helpful way to think about building business software. Business software is typically made up of multiple services connected together, some of which your company controls and some of which other companies control, and they talk to each other through APIs. This is because of economies of scale. For example, it's generally cheaper and easier to just pay Amazon to store your documents for you than to build your own document storage system. Unless you have a significant level of custom needs like wanting particular optimizations or you need huge scale, it's cheaper and easier to use an off-the-shelf database system than to build your own custom database system. Every part of these complex architectures can conceivably fail for some period of time, and the rest of your system needs to be able to know what to do if that happens. It is theoretically possible to model such complex systems as a function that maps a finite-sized number to another finite-sized number, and indeed some attempts to do this have been made... for example, there have been attempts to create purely mathematical models of computation that include the element of time as a primary element. But they have never really caught on significantly. In practice, it is generally more effective to treat building business software as a craft of figuring out how to put pieces together in a reliable way, not as a purely mathematical model.

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You can look at it like that

ur an actual moron if u don't. computers literally only operate on high/low voltages that represent 1/0, anything else is just a narrative put on top of that.

it is generally more effective

like i said at the beginning of this thread: we are as a society utter dogshit at efficiently implementing computational systems, and have created a trashheap many orders of magnitudes more complex that it fundamentall is, that not only flushes trillions of dollars/yr of expensive engineering effort literally down the drain, it limits us in untold trillions more of opportunity cost in how much time is wasted on ungodly stupid informational systems.

i won't have you idiot-splain this away to me as "effective" business. i will just keep calling u an r-slured for failing to really understand just how dogshit all code you've ever produced really is.

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Have you owned the libs yet?

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