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Yeah this is worth trillions of dollars of investment :marseythumbsup2:

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Deepseek is the notoriously cheap one that just smoked western AI, they made this shit with like $15m

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2 billion dollar cluster of 50,000 H100s though

probably more considering they're not supposed to fricking have them

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That is OpenAI cope for the money fire.

They said they used a cluster of 2048 H800s which is a believable number to get via straw buyers and also makes sense with how they described the model, and using 8 bit precision.

Llama did similar with 3.1.

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I ain't Sam Altman, nikka. I think OpenAI is full of shit a good amount of the time and that actual AGI isn't going to happen. Or at least not soon. I just know China and the image they try so hard to portray—Han are the most smartest goodest bestest little citizens with totally big peepees (any lie to the contrary is American psyop to demoralize Chinese man) living in racial harmony and better and superior to vicious and stupid American mongrels that only innovate because they have money and because of Chinese researchers they stole

https://www.technologyreview.com/2025/01/24/1110526/china-deepseek-top-ai-despite-sanctions

In a recent interview with the Chinese media outlet LatePost, Kai-Fu Lee, a veteran entrepreneur and former head of Google China, said that only "front-row players" typically engage in building foundation models such as ChatGPT, as it's so resource-intensive. The situation is further complicated by the US export controls on advanced semiconductors. High-Flyer's decision to venture into AI is directly related to these constraints, however. Long before the anticipated sanctions, Liang acquired a substantial stockpile of Nvidia A100 chips, a type now banned from export to China. The Chinese media outlet 36Kr estimates that the company has over 10,000 units in stock, but Dylan Patel, founder of the AI research consultancy SemiAnalysis, estimates that it has at least 50,000. Recognizing the potential of this stockpile for AI training is what led Liang to establish DeepSeek, which was able to use them in combination with the lower-power chips to develop its models.

Zihan Wang, the former DeepSeek employee, told MIT Technology Review that he had access to abundant computing resources and was given freedom to experiment when working at DeepSeek, "a luxury that few fresh graduates would get at any company."

In an interview with the Chinese media outlet 36Kr in July 2024 Liang said that an additional challenge Chinese companies face on top of chip sanctions, is that their AI engineering techniques tend to be less efficient. "We [most Chinese companies] have to consume twice the computing power to achieve the same results. Combined with data efficiency gaps, this could mean needing up to four times more computing power.* Our goal is to continuously close these gaps*," he said.

We need to move manufacturing to the US and make Taiwan's manufacture GPUs like Israeli pagers

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Do you think China is a planned economy where every business is micromanaged by the government lol?

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I mean it's more "macromanaged," right? Like, they let you do whatever until they don't like it, then you disappear for a week and change your mind.

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That does happen but usually when some billionaire decides to criticise the government too strongly. China is a lot more permissive than people give it credit for. It's macromanaged like every other economy with economic incentive for individual industries they want to grow etc. It's just a hyper competitive environment. For every BYD and Tencent there are 200 companies that went bust. It's competitive to a ridiculous degree, to the point where they will fly drones outside of competitors offices trying to take photos of documents on tables.

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A massive chunk of CN businesses are state-owned though, way moreso compared to the US.

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I've seen no proof of any h100s, the technical report claims they used h800s. Unless you have insider info ofc.

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wdym

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they made this shit with like $15m

And the anons who poast drek like that all the time cost nothing

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i havent seen ai greentexts this good since the models were lobotomized

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