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:marseyflageu: Holy shit, the European Union finally came up with their their own LLM :marseysnappy!:

https://openeurollm.eu/launch-press-release

Wait nvm, it's just a framework lol :marseyemojirofl:

https://openeurollm.eu/

Orange Site:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42922989

:marseybluecheck:

:marsey4chan:

https://boards.4chan.org/g/thread/104200209

:marseymouse:

https://lemmy.world/post/25074353

:marseysnoo:

https://old.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/1ih6ukk/the_eu_is_betting_56_million_on_open_source_ai/

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Just like set up another city state on the Riviera. Call it Old San Francisco. Don't frick with them through Muslims, taxes, and loisences. Let American and chink techies immigrate easily. There Europe, I just made you a trillion dollars. You're welcome.

:#marseycheers:

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The prospect of anything in Europe growing as big as tech did in San Fran terrifies the European bureaucrat

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:#marseymerchantfoid:

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With low/no taxes anyone would be r-slurred to not take that deal and live in Europe like that.

Maybe they could just split that little peninsula with Portofino off

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Corsica!

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All unskilled labor must live outside of town.

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*Live on boats like the Chinese made the Tankas live

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The Mistral team from France is doing a great job as it is, and they're open source.

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What's that mean? :marseyconfused:

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So far they have made a logo and ensured that there will be two dozen different opinions on every insignificant technical decision if they ever get to writing code.

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$56 million lmfaoooo its so over for Europoors

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At first I thought a framework was some alternative to an LLM I hadn't heard of. Nope, literally just a plan to stuff eurocrats/regulations/ideology into a hypothetical product that might exist at some point in the future.

:#marseyitsallsotiresome:

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I can only imagine trying to ask it do anything

>Hey EuroLemmy how can I make an apple pie?

First you need to get apples and a knife to cut them but purchasing and possessing a knife is illegal. I have already alerted interpol to your problematic question. Do not resist when they come to your door.

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Interpol doesn't actually come to your door, they send local police :marseyglow:

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"Okay, we put the EU flag into a cute little heart. That'll satisfy our unbelievably straggy voters, right?"

"No. We can make it gayer."

https://i.rdrama.net/images/1738625617NLql5TVWGA14MQ.webp

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You can't make it up, all they can do is make regulation

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They allocated €37.4 million [1]. As an European, I truly don't understand why they keep ignoring that the money required for such projects is at least an order of magnitude more.

https://digital-strategy.ec.europa.eu/en/news/pioneering-ai-project-awarded-opening-large-language-models-european-languages

:#marseygarfieldrofl: !peakpoors

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Didn't the Chinese do it for $6 million?

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The pre-training run for that specific model they published (r1) would have cost $6M if they had done it on EC2 or something similar.

But that wasn't their first attempt, it probably took 200 tries (starting smaller of course), so the (EC2 equivalent) cost of figuring out how to eventually train their r1 model was another $250M, and in order to iterate through those attempts quickly they needed a lot of computing resources, worth around $2B (which they will continue to use for the next 5 years).

That's the smallest order of magnitude that currently has a chance, but going forward it won't be enough.

OpenAI's computing resources are closer to $75B (increasing rapidly). OpenAI will quickly figure out how deepseek did it, and apply those modifications to their own upcoming models, but with 40 times as much compute as deepseek has used, so they can iterate 40 times faster at the same size as deepsekk, and eventually go much bigger than r1 (and perhaps at the end distill down to a terabyte sized model, for cheaper inference).

(Not just for openai but all its big competitors.)

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Accurate. Buy the NVDA dip or get dusted.

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can the yuroes do it for $37 mil?

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Sure, just download DeepSeek and run it, plus $37 million to verify regulatory compliance.

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https://media1.tenor.com/m/q_vdHP2y_9IAAAAd/nodding-yes.gif

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Is that for the building rent to stick the LLM datacenter inside?

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!aichads discuss

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they'll just glue deepL on top of deepseek r1.

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No they won't, because that would :marseywood: be a good model :marseylaying:

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