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More kernel drama :marseykernelpanic: Nouveau maintainer steps down due to thin blue line comment

https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/nouveau/2025-February/046677.html

He's stepping down due to Ted Tso comparing maintainers to :marseycop: here: https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/[email protected]/

I honestly don't really have a QRD other than another maintainer stepped down due to what he saw was a slight by the Linux maintainers :marseylaptopangry2:. Funny thing is the guy who set him off (Ted Tso) is the guy who caused the rust filesystem maintainer to step down as well due to a very public grilling :marseygrilling2: lmao: https://www.phoronix.com/news/Rust-Linux-Maintainer-Step-Down.

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One of the things which gets very frustrating from the maintainer's

perspective is development teams that are only interested in their pet

feature, and we know, through very bitter experience, that 95+% of

the time, once the code is accepted, the engineers which contribute

the code will disappear, never to be seen again. As a result, a very

common dynamic is that maintainers will exercise the one and only

power which they have --- which is to refuse to accept code until it

is pretty much perfect --- since once we accept the code, we instantly

lose all leverge, and the contributors will be disappear, and we will

be left with the responsibility of cleanig up the mess. (And once

there are users, we can't even rip out the code, since that would be a

user-visible regression.)

:#soysnooseethe: NOOOOO! STOP BEING REASONABLE!!! STOP SPENDING ALL THIS TIME ON THIS EMAIL EXPLAINING WHY I'M BEING AN ENTITLED TWAT!!!!!!

Well, here's my suggestion. Teams that want to get features,

especially ones that might be potentially disruptive, into the tree,

need to spend time becoming part of the community. This means that

they need to participate in part of the joint effort to keep the code

maintainable and high quaity --- even if it isn't part of their

company's short-term goals, or directly related to their pet feature

that they are trying to get upstream.

:#soysnooseethe: NOOOOOO! I DON"T WANT TO PUT IN ANY TIME WITH BUILDING YOUR TRUST AND PROVING MY WORTH TO YOU AND YOUR GROUP. YOU MUST ACCEPT ME IMMEDIATELY OR YOU WILL BE LABELED A TRANSPHOBIC RACIST HOMOPHOBIC CUTE TWINK FASCIST!!!!!

:soysnootypefast: Obviously respect and open-mindedness to new ideas appears to be the>

:soysnootypefast: grease that makes all of this run smoothly. Unfortunately that seems

:soysnootypefast: to be about as rare a commodity as omniscience in our industry.

The other thing which is super rare is people and companies who care

about tech debt cleanup, code maintainability, and code quality.

Instead of complaining about maintainers for who are unreasonably

caring about these things, when they are desparately under-resourced

to do as good of a job as they industry demands, how about meeting us

half-way and helping us with these sort of long-term code health

issues? Maybe if you engage us as part of the community, we'll be a

lot more open to adding changes that might increase the code

maintenance burden?

!codecels, what's with these Nouveau queers lately?

https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/nouveau/2025-February/046677.html

However, there is one thing I can't stand and it's hurting me the most.

I'm convinced, no, my core believe is, that inclusivity and respect,

working with others as equals, no power plays involved, is how we should

work together within the Free and Open Source community.

>acts like whiny entitled cute twink

>doesn't get well-liked for it

>"it's them that's the problem!!!" :soyjaktantrum:

https://i.rdrama.net/images/17396433589mchHu2fFaIjJQ.webp

>let's not make things political

>inserts a bunch of gender leftoid jargon

:marseyeyeroll: :marseyeyeroll: :marseyeyeroll:

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This is why I only use official Huang-approved Nvidia™ drivers

:#marseyyes: https://i.rdrama.net/images/1739646126L7UwGNdPZPhIPw.webp

:#marseyno: https://i.rdrama.net/images/1739646126GpMxccfy0McM3g.webp

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